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though its a tool that may or may not be effective, i believe every little thing helps:
http://www.seocentro.com/tools/search-engines/metatag-analyzer.html

luemob
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I have a quick question about keywords. I am writing an article (1000 words) in which the editor has requested the use of about 20 keywords. Is there a set system for noting keywords in web article content, or as a tech writer, do I merely use the keywords in the normal course of the article's text? Sorry, I know it's a simplistic question, but I'm afraid I will botch something in writing the article. Thanks for your help and all these great SEO-related posts!
Regards, mmchang

mmchang
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work the words in but repeat them throughout the article as appropriate.. also using headings with some of them in it would also be a big help

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work the words in but repeat them throughout the article as appropriate.. also using headings with some of them in it would also be a big help

Thank you so much! This is exactly what I needed to know. Kind regards, from mmchang

mmchang
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Although most of Search engines do not consider the Keyword tags in their rankings, but the fact writing those tags are so easy and less time consuming that there is no harm, if used legitimately, in using them. It rather reinforces the keyword ideas in rankings and there are news that few big engines like yahoo do give these tags some credit.

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well you want to take a look at a keyword density tool to ensure you do not have too many that would then be considered spam.
So take a look at the keyword density tool before starting.

IndianapolisSeo
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My thought is that keywords are still important to let search engines know what your pages are about, but they will carry less weight over time. Build sites and pages that offer good quality content. Getting your site or article bookmarked or linked to is far more important than how many keywords are on the page.

OICUAM2
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Do we get penalized if we use too many keywords in our meta tags .

atulperx
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People People People!

I'm sorry to say, but most of you have NO CLUE what you are taking about. The limit is 6. Any good marketer will tell you this. You can also use submitexpress.com tool and it will tell you when you're over on your keywords. For those people that say keywords don't work...you're wrong again!!! BUT, because there is so much competition out there, keywords are great for misspelled words. Example: Many people would spell "Helio Mysto" like this (Helio misto) so we made it a keyword Meta tag. When we did, the search term came up in the #1 position. Still use your important keywords as it's like building a house...A support beam by itself does nothing, but positioned right...It will hold up your house!

All my sites are TOP performing sites. Like www.UsediPhones.net
Just enter the search term "used iPhone" in Yahoo #1 and #2 out of 200,000,000 sites and #5 in Google out of 113,000,000 sites for the search term "used iPhones".

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Don't do stuff too much keywords only. I don't use more than 10 keywords and use those keywords which are also present in the body also.

jrafique
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Sorry to be the Maverick in this discussion but the facts on this matter indicate that when it comes to META-keywords you must keep it to three.

Why?

Remember, in the process of building your site you are doing one page at a time. Each page should be very specific with regards to its content. The more specific you are the better the results you'll get with your rankings on the search engines.

Think about it this way. How could you possibly write or create a web page that addresses 8-10 or more keywords? You simply can't.

So when someone types in "one" of your keywords, finds your site listed on the first page of the results (hopefully), clicks on your link, they had better find the "exact" results they were looking for. If not, they're gone.

On the other hand, if the keyword they typed into the search field was "oriental rug cleaning" and your page was about "discount oriental rugs" you have failed your visitor and they will never be back.

What's even worse, now that the search engines are monitoring online behaviour of surfers they will penalize your site if your "bounce rate" is above 50%. Also, the search engines will think you're trying to SPAM them when you use too many (8-10).

So, limit your keywords to 2-3 per page. Make it specific and related to the content on that page, and use the "primary" keyword in a text link.

You'll do much better in the long run if you follow this pattern.


To your success
:)

HomeBizAdvisor
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Thank you for your reply :)

I can't say that I really disagree with you. We are talking the same language. I was expressing that 6 is a maximum. As you see I used 5 keywords in my example below.

With a keyword like "oriental rug cleaning" you are limited to the amount of keywords you can use, but if you are selling oriental rugs...You may want to take advantage of Yahoo and Google’s drop down boxes as I do. "Oriental rugs" "Cheap oriental rugs" "Oriental rugs for sale" "discount oriental rugs" and Antique oriental rugs"

Your title could read
"Cheap oriental rugs for sale. Discount antique oriental rugs” This title encompasses all the words in Google’s and Yahoo’s drop downs. Now simple use these same words in your description and body of your page. Make sure that these keywords are said with in the first 200 words of the body. Also use H1 header that use’s these keywords. And keep in mind that bots can’t read pictures, if you want a pretty picture, simply lay text over the picture so that it can be read. That’s all there is to it. TA DA!!!!

Again, I believe we are on the same page. Its people that think they can optimize 20 keywords on one page, is what gets me.

If anyone disagrees with me please let me know, as this is what has got us to the top of Google and Yahoo for EVERY site we own.

John Willis

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I suggest you use between 8 to 10 keywords that are related to the web page, and your products or services. You might as well use it as stated by cscgal.

mauconline
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Hello Mauconline,

I'm up for the challenge. I would like to see a site that you have created, where you have used 10 keywords. I will then analyze your site, and see if you were successful. I can't see how you could possibly fit 10 keywords in your title and have it make any sense. If your Meta tag keywords are not in your title, you had better have a PR6 or better for it to show, and even then, good LUCK!

Here is an example: www.Helio.com with a PR6
Here are their keywords....
Helio cell phone plans, cellphone plans, wireless plans, mobile phone plans, cellular plans, helio all in membership, free nights and weekends, myspace mobile

Why wouldn't all their keywords show when searching in Google. They're a PR6 and there are less than a dozen cell phone carriers. So surely they should be on the first page for all their keywords in Google right?.... WRONG!

WHY? Because this is how their title reads....
"Mobile phones with wireless service | Helio"

Now, below are the keywords they have in their keyword Meta tags that are not showing up in searches. WHY? This is because these words are not in their title. Do I have to YELL it to you people, or is it you just like to continue doing things wrong!

"Myspace mobile"
"Free nights and weekends"
"Cellular plans"
"Cellphone plans"
"Wireless plans"
"Moblie phone plans" was a good attempt as "mobile" and "Phones" are in their title, but still not showing.

LOOK!!!....You must have your Meta tag keywords in your title and you can NOT effectively write a good title with 10 keywords.

There is one exception to to rule as mentioned in my ealier post. If you are selling "Mysto Phones" and you believe that your customers may enter "Misto Phones" as a search term. This would be the only time you should break the rules as your competition has not flooded the web with this keyword. You should also use this keyword at least one time in the body of your content. The content could read " A Misto phone is a Mysto phone, no matter how you spell it"

Enough said! I still love you guys :)

John Willis

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Hi,

Almost 10 to 15 keywords are better in meta tags.
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asifinfomist
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Use some 10 - 14 keywords but they must be finest. You can go thru the relevant sites and checkout what type of keywords they have used. Or you should go with the keyword research tools like overture, Google Adwords & Wordtracker which would give you the best keywords.

Robdale
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I have yet to have anyone show me their site where they are using 15 keywords and they are getting even 60% results. SHOW ME!!!!! I'm sure you won't. I'm sure the keywords you use in your title will be the only words that show in a search, unless you are using a Meta tag keyword that is not readlily used within the net, like the word misto, which is a misspelling of the word Mysto. Come on show me..... :)

Prove me wrong!!! You can't as I live, breath and sleep SEO.

Love ya...

John

TechGurus
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You can challenge me, I can accept your challenge. But you can bet with me, I can approve my words after it.
Waiting your response.

I have yet to have anyone show me their site where they are using 15 keywords and they are getting even 60% results. SHOW ME!!!!! I'm sure you won't. I'm sure the keywords you use in your title will be the only words that show in a search, unless you are using a Meta tag keyword that is not readlily used within the net, like the word misto, which is a misspelling of the word Mysto. Come on show me..... :)

Prove me wrong!!! You can't as I live, breath and sleep SEO.

Love ya...

John

asifinfomist
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You can challenge me, I can accept your challenge. But you can bet with me, I can approve my words after it. I can show you the site which get 80% results.

Waiting your response.

asifinfomist
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Thanks for all sharing your opinion. i says just 10-12 keywords are fine. but most impotent is content.

Markdevas
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