The Unix Haters Handbook

[serkan sendur]

yesterday i read that book, i was relieved.
Do you also think that unix and programming on unix sucks?(i would also say c++ language but i know that Narue may prove me wrong, so i dont dare to say it)

[tux4life]

I think I've seen that book before, you don't have to take it seriously :) ...

[Narue]

>Do you also think that unix and programming on unix sucks?
Unix is fabulous and programming on Unix is sheer joy. X programming on Unix is what sucks. I think more programmers have lost their sanity to X than MFC.

[serkan sendur]

I think I've seen that book before, you don't have to take it seriously :) ...

the book is written by some phd holders from MIT, how cant you take it seriously?

[serkan sendur]

>Do you also think that unix and programming on unix sucks? Unix is fabulous and programming on Unix is sheer joy. X programming on Unix is what sucks. I think more programmers have lost their sanity to X than MFC.

can i ask an ignorant question like what is "x programming"?

[tux4life]

can i ask an ignorant question like what is "x programming"?

>> What is X ? http://www.google.com/search?q=define:x+window+system&oi=definel&defl=en

>> X programming is programming for X (duh :P)

[siddhant3s]

I think the book is pretty much fun.
Though being a Linux(which it originated from MINIX which in turn originated from UNIX) user, I have my full sympathy and support over UNIX,

But the book is really hilarious. Thats it. Nothing more.

UNIX has changed the meaning of OS. No doubt.

Moderators: Don't you think this thread will be more good for the Geek Lounge.

[edit] : Anyone interested in reading book, is freely available for download: http://www.simson.net/ref/ugh.pdf

[tux4life]

Moderators: Don't you think this thread will be more good for the Geek Lounge.

I was also thinking that :)

[serkan sendur]

yeah maybe it was better for geek lounge but c++ is a better way to attract Narue's attention, i am honored when i get posts from her.

[tux4life]

yeah maybe it was better for geek lounge but c++ is a better way to attract Narue's attention, i am honored when i get posts from her.

Ah you think in that way lol :P

[Narue]

>c++ is a better way to attract Narue's attention, i am honored when i get posts from her.
That's sad. The really pathetic part is that you're probably serious. :icon_rolleyes:

[serkan sendur]

>c++ is a better way to attract Narue's attention, i am honored when i get posts from her. That's sad. The really pathetic part is that you're probably serious. :icon_rolleyes:

what is wrong with being "Narue obsessed"?

i found a good saying by the way :

Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer Usenet signature, November 1987

[~s.o.s~]

> what is wrong with being "Narue obsessed"?

Nothing is wrong in being obsessed with 'XXX'; just make sure you don't end up causing inconvenience and chaos with your *obsession*[which you just did by posting this thread in C++ forum, making it an off-topic thread].

[NicAx64]

i would also say c++ language but i know that Narue may prove me wrong, so i dont dare to say it

not only the Narue will hate you , all the C++ community will
hate you. Please don't talk like this. Even think that I feeling
hard time learning java and java GUI , it is not a good
idea to boost like this "java programming sucks , I hate java".
then the ppl who interested to the java and spend their time mostely on java will definitely hate you and be offense with you.

and as I feel C++ makes the life easy , it is a great tool.Go forward and use it.

Even the X programming will be fun. I personally don't like to program with MFC even I own the legal visual studio 6.0 too.
that comes with MFC.I use wxWidgets for the purpose of the
MFC.

so what I telling is Narue++ .and C++ is for the human beings , and
it's the #1 fav programming language that I'm studying .

[nav33n]

so what I telling is Narue++ .and C++ is for the human beings , and it's the #1 fav programming language that I'm studying .

:D umm.. What are you talking about ?

[NicAx64]

:D umm.. What are you talking about ?

source: Think in C++ free book. http://www.mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html

we also say that C++ is also a productive programming language.
Read the first chapter , you will get the point.and he also said that
C++ is hybrid to the abstract problem domain and underlying hardware.

It is the power of C++ and make it consider as a productive programming language. So C++ is a good programming languge
and will be use in future too.

[nav33n]

No. I was talking about you mentioning Narue++ ;) Well, Nevermind!

[Nick Evan]

This thread made me a bit sick in the stomach...

[NicAx64]

No. I was talking about you mentioning Narue++ ;) Well, Nevermind!

that means I agree with Narue

and ppl who are interested in other than C++ it's good for them. But
C++ is also good.

[Ancient Dragon]

Do you also think that unix and programming on unix sucks?

Absolutely yes. I hate *nix because its just too damn complicated to get anything done. There are, however, a few features I like, such as shell programming, awk and sed. MS-Windows batch files aren't in the same league with *nix shell programs. But doing simple things like installing programs on *nix is a nightmare.