New Cold War

[jbennet]

Could a new cold war be on the brew?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6717119.stm

The russians are aiming nukes back at europe after the americans annoyed them by building missle defences and pulling out of the ABM treaty

[Serunson]

"Strategic Balance" mmmmm
never heard that one before ~ oh wait, the last cold war.

[jbennet]

lol and did u hear the americans are bringing back Star Wars

[Serunson]

What they going to war with light sabres?
now that will be fun!
I cut u with light! ~ jumping while using a mystic power. Oh wait it's all done with green screens ~ boo

[joshSCH]

Could a new cold war be on the brew? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6717119.stm The russians are aiming nukes back at europe after the americans annoyed them by building missle defences and pulling out of the ABM treaty

hey, we've already had our cold war with the damn russians.. now it's yalls turn to put up with them lol..lol and did u hear the americans are bringing back Star Wars huh? no kidding? An episode 7? I always thought it would be awesome to make movies after "The Return of the Jedi" Where'd u get this info from?

[jbennet]

Star wars = big space lazers for shooting down nukes. Started in the 60s but was gonna cost trillions but bush wants to make it for north korean defence

[Ancient Dragon]

What they going to war with light sabres? now that will be fun! I cut u with light! ~ jumping while using a mystic power. Oh wait it's all done with green screens ~ boo

Don't laugh too hard -- many objects of science finction have become reality. The communicators in Star Trek are already in common use around the world, and we have had lazer beams for quite a few years too.

You can think of Russia as Dark Vador and USA as young Starbuck. Not sure where europe would fit in, unless maybe Palpatine

[Aia]

>Not sure where europe would fit in, unless maybe Palpatine

No, I'll say more like Padme Amidala , that gets used and then disposed.

[dcc]

President Reagan was sold on the concept of using lasers and or plasma beams as a missile defence, but the practicality of the concept was fraught with problems. Chief among these was getting a generating plant large enough to make it run into space and keep it running unmanned. We now have the technology to build lasers that don't require the tremendous amounts of energy to operate.

As for the north Koreans, with their current technology they stand a better chance of nuking themselves. Their ICBM technology is doing well to get off of the main land. Basically as is stands today they couldn't hit an elephant in the #### with a surf board.

Russia's state of military readiness is an oxymoron, their military has been routed by economic demise and pilfering. My biggest concern regarding their military is what parts of their nuclear arsenal have been sold to what third world power.

[sk8ndestroy14]

Here's a good question. What right does the United States have to build a missile defence station in a nation that doesn't want us to build onw in their country? And why would they want to when it threatens peace? It really defeats the purpose if you ask me. Build a DEFENSE station at the risk of going to WAR. There's no logic.

[Aia]

>What right does the United States have to build a missile defence station in a nation that doesn't want us to build onw in their country?

The right that the power of money buys.
If a country REALLY doesn't want it, there's nothing that USA could build there.

[sk8ndestroy14]

The USA is stationed in nations all over the world. It seems threatening and almost opressive. It's the most powerful nation in the world, why does it need to station troops in all of these nations?

[Aia]

>why does it need to station troops in all of these nations?
I have been a militar. But I am not a militar advisor, so I could not tell you why we need troops everywhere, if I accept your statement. However, could it be because:
>It's the most powerful nation in the world

and that's how you keep it that way?

>It seems threatening and almost opressive.
What literature or who have you been listening lately?.

[sk8ndestroy14]

Not opressive, I take that back, but it seems threatening. If Cuban troops were stationed in Cleveland I'd feel threatened. So I'm sure they feel threatened that we're stationed there.

What do you meen you've been a militar? You were in the military? Which nation? I have a few friends that have fought. And btw, although I don't always agree with the politics of war I have always supported the troops.

[Aia]

>What do you meen you've been a militar?
I meant that.
>You were in the military?
I believe that's what being a militar means. ;)
>Which nation?
I was a corporal in the Spanish Air Force. No, I wasn't a pilot. I worked in a telecommunication section, when teletypes were high
tech in Spain.

[dcc]

I can understand the radar facility being installed in the Czech Republic, as a defensive position it has merit in that region, and I sure that the Czech government will benefit financially from the exchange. What I don't understand is why in the world would we need to have interceptor rockets in Poland.

Citing Iran as a potential threat also has merit, they may have the ability to build nuclear weapons in the near future. Their President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is just enough of a religious zealot that he is worth worrying about, I wouldn't be surprised to see him threaten or use those weapons. One thing that always comes to mind is that no atrocities have been committed more gleefully than those done in the name of God.

I started to make a remark questioning Ahmadinejad's sanity, but then I thought about what Bush has done during his administration and I realize that I would have to include him as well.

Speaking of nut cases, the other country mentioned as a "rogue state" is North Korea which is led by Kim Jong il, this guy definitely is not playing with a full deck of cards. The only thing working in the favor of the world in general is their technological ineptitude.

[joshSCH]

The USA is stationed in nations all over the world. It seems threatening and almost opressive. It's the most powerful nation in the world, why does it need to station troops in all of these nations?

b/c we can. We are the most powerful nation on this planet, and we love to get involved in other's affairs. We love to think that we are the police of the world, and we are 'helping' the world by spreading democracy.

I completely agree about North Korea, it will take those idiots centuries to develop an accuracy similar to the musket. As for the Russians, they have had it rough in the transition between communism and democracy.. tougher than most other countries b/c it is so large and sparsely populated..

And for the missile defense system.. we are basically using the Europeans to test our own devices.. obviously the Patriot missile system failed quite miserably, as it is almost impossible to hit a missile with another missile (the laws of physics, I'm sure sk8 would agree with me :))

Look at Israel, we give that country more military and economic support than any other country in the world.. and why? To test our military weapons of course! Israel is always at war, and the Americans want them to test our military might. The same is true for the Europeans and this new missile defense system.. It appears that we are doing them a favor, but in reality it is our selfish desire..

[jbennet]

mmm im afraid this will just add to the sense of hate most peope here fell toward the american government

[dcc]

mmm im afraid this will just add to the sense of hate most peope here fell toward the american government

President Bush has not exactly been a good will ambassador for the U.S., the results of his actions will take decades to get over.

[Serunson]

well Bush has made a mess of things!