Heck, it's even legal to download material protected by copyright law... if you have the author's permission. For example, I just downloaded J_Search's post.
Rashakil Fol
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Correct. The posession of the software isn't illegal (in most countries, conceivably in some it could be).
In the US it would be illegal if Limewire were marketed specifically for the purpose of comitting a crime, because then the software would have been marketed as a tool for comitting crimes which is itself a crime.
The use of the software doesn't guarantee you will get a virus.
But using the software to download copyrighted material without permission from the copyright holder is illegal in most jurisdictions (in some places it's not, those places don't recognise copyright laws, China is a prime example but there the software itself is likely illegal).
And when downloading copyrighted material (or rather attempting to) you're likely to do get a virus as a lot of such material is infected with all kinds of bad stuff.
jwenting
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Here in Australia, (as I'm sure you'll find that it is also elsewhere) the actual act of downloading illicit material is not, in itself, illegal. However having that material in your possesion IS illegal. So download all you want, as long as it's deleted from your hard drive or other storage medium the instant it's put on there! I'm sure your ISP would be happy to collect payment for the extra traffic you're creating for no reason whatsoever :)
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hmm, so in Australia it would be legal to listen to streaming audio generated from pirated music but not to actually cache the stream on your machine while streaming it.
Interesting.
jwenting
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It'd also be illegal to broadcast it via streaming it on the internet :D
But people who get 'busted' for illegal content get busted because they have it, not because they've downloaded it. It's the software company who makes the p2p software who's responsible for the distribution part of the crime.
Catweazle
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Ah, technicalities. You just can't live without them.
goldeagle2005
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Not technicalities at all. As long as the software has "substantial legal use" (that's the exact clause in the law prevailing in the US) and the company marketing it doesn't explicitly market it for illegal use (which some do) the software itself is legal.
When you opt to use it for illegal purposes that's your choice, and the company cannot be held liable because they didn't provide or create (at least for the courts) the software for that illegal purpose.
This is a direct means of protecting other businesses as well. For example many criminals use knifes and guns. If the manufacturer were to be held responsible for illegal use of their products, it would be impossible to produce those (and that includes kitchen knifes and military weapons which after all can be and have been stolen).
It would also include (for exampl) screwdrivers which have been used to break open doors and windows and on occasion to stab people to death.
jwenting
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Limewire itself may not be illegal, but using it to share copyright material definitely is. It's like saying 'A gun isn't legal, but using it to kill someone definitely is'
depends on how person defines legal ! there is nothing wrong with useing limewire its just a music share program if it were that illlegal the feds would shut it down feel free to use it i belong to a gosple hub down load videos cds all the time :eek::):):!:
Downloading video CDs (Movies, music) etc definitelyis illegal. Not to worry though. I keep doing it too, though I use Direct Connect :mrgreen:
goldeagle2005
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question, is limewire pro a service or just software? If it was software, couldn't you get it off of regula limewire?
TheNNS
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question, is limewire pro a service or just software? If it was software, couldn't you get it off of regula limewire?
Yes you can do that, which is ironic, but illegal.
John A
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question, is limewire pro a service or just software? If it was software, couldn't you get it off of regula limewire?
Yes. The only benefit that PRO offers (to my knowledge) are faster downloads.Yes you can do that, which is ironic, but illegal.
Illegal only if he was downloading something copyrighted.
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