Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by sneekula In the US unemployment numbers are blatantly underestimated. The governmant just released a sugarcoated number (U-3) of 8.5%, … Re: There is an elephant on the loo! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by sneekula Herbert Hoover was in charge of a governmant wheat pice support program that lasted from 1915 to 1929. Any idiot that could scratch the soil eventually grew wheat and made a living. In 1929 the price support collapsed, and the price went down to $0.00 per bushel of wheat! Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Ancient Dragon >>Another number also considers people who are stuck in a low paying or a partime job. They are NOT unemployed! How can you possibly be considered unployed if you have a job and get a paycheck? There are many unemployed people who are not counted in the unemployment rate. The Bureau of US Statistics does not count every enemployed … Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by sneekula Not all of us get government pensions and government healthcare. There are plenty of hard working folks who used to make $40,000 a year and now have to support their family flipping hamburgers at $14,000 a year without health insurance. I would say that they are at least 50% unemployed. Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Ancient Dragon >>I would say that they are at least 50% unemployed. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. And that is one reason why I think all companies should be required to provide health insurance for all their employees. Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by jephthah ... retracting ... Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by vegaseat Hmm, partially employed and therefore partially unemployed, interesting! I think the US government's U-6 number is probably more realistic. Nevada's high local unemployment number of 11% has hit illegal aliens pretty hard. They are not part of that number. Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by GrimJack Yeah, the U-6 is probably way more accurate considering these:[QUOTE]Should we exclude people from the "official" unemployment numbers that want a job but can't find work? Should we exclude people who have given up on finding a job completely? Should we exclude people who are willing and able to work full-time, but are forced to … Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by NicAx64 there are no jobs now kid , understand the truth. Try to do you'r something own . become a freelancer like that. My idea is to develop IC programmers , electronic hobby kits and sell them on the ebay. anyway my father is also a electronic engineer since 1999 he work as a senior VLSI designer at hong knog for a famous International company. But he… Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by NicAx64 [QUOTE=Ancient Dragon;843085]>>Another number also considers people who are stuck in a low paying or a partime job. They are NOT unemployed! How can you possibly be considered unployed if you have a job and get a paycheck? There are many unemployed people who are not counted in the unemployment rate. The Bureau of US Statistics does … Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by sneekula The number of folks in US prisons is about 2% of the number of employed folks. However, minorities have been particularly affected: One in nine black men ages 20 to 34 is behind bars. Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by NicAx64 [QUOTE=sneekula;843823]The number of folks in US prisons is about 2% of the number of employed folks. However, minorities have been particularly affected: One in nine black men ages 20 to 34 is behind bars.[/QUOTE] so what you trying to say is going to the prison is better than going to the street , aren't you ? do your self employment … Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Ancient Dragon [QUOTE=sneekula;843823]The number of folks in US prisons is about 2% of the number of employed folks. However, minorities have been particularly affected: One in nine black men ages 20 to 34 is behind bars.[/QUOTE] That's not true -- people in prisons are not counted as either employed or unemployes. They are non-people. Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by chriswellings hmmm ...... well i dont know what the unemployment rate here in aus is but i think that schooling would be the way to go if you dont have a job (like me) also this is just my opinion but lets say someone did go and try to do there own thing money would not pile up stait away , it does take time and the banks/lenders are not going to wait for you … Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by NicAx64 [QUOTE]it does take time and the banks/lenders are not going to wait for you they want there money when its due so in saying that i would rather be in prison than have to live on the street.... at least that way i know i am garrunteed to get 3 sqaure meals a day a roof over my head and a dry place to sleep..[/QUOTE] yep , sure you can go to the … Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by bumsfeld Spain has unemployment rate of 14%. Most African coutries are much higher than this, like Zimbabwe shows 80% in the CIA's World Factbook. So the US has a long way to go! Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Aia >So the US has a long way to go! It'll take not very long to get there if the same socialist policies that are much to blame in Europe for the unemployment rates, continue to be adopted by Congress. Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by GrimJack [QUOTE=Aia;848194]>So the US has a long way to go! It'll take not very long to get there if the same socialist policies that are much to blame in Europe for the unemployment rates, continue to be adopted by Congress.[/QUOTE] EEK! Socialism! Heh,heh - next thing you know it will be fascism (oh, right - Rush's butt-boy Beck already screams … Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Ezzaral Well, Beck has really gone off the deep end lately so I wouldn't pay much attention anything he was screaming at this point. Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by MosaicFuneral [QUOTE=Ezzaral;848495]Well, Beck has really gone off the deep end lately so I wouldn't pay much attention anything he was screaming at this point.[/QUOTE] Yep. This video proves it: [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJN3PGqDRNg"]Beck - Loser[/URL] lol Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Ezzaral I had nut-job Beck stupidity like this: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM4xqnukQrM&feature=related[/url] and this: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex695VSHmSs&feature=related[/url] more in mind... Loser is still apt though. Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Aia [QUOTE=Ezzaral;848495]Well, Beck has really gone off the deep end lately so I wouldn't pay much attention anything he was screaming at this point.[/QUOTE] Who the hell is this Beck and why are you talking about him? I can guess, that probably has something to do my use of the socialist word. Which somehow it always triggers a nonsense … Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Ezzaral That would be Glenn Beck and GrimJack brought him up. Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Aia [QUOTE=Ezzaral;848751]That would be Glenn Beck and GrimJack brought him up.[/QUOTE] Ah, thank you. I don't care to read what GrimJack has to say, but it fits with his typical style. While the full name sounds familiar somehow, I would not doubt it is one of Mr. GrimJack's favorites right-wing chip-on-the-shoulder. Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by jbennet Got to agree though, there are some people here who make more on the dole (social security) than if they actually got a job... so no incentive tio work... maybe we need to get tougher on these people... Its about 6.5% here. Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by bumsfeld [QUOTE=Ezzaral;848512]I had nut-job Beck stupidity like this: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM4xqnukQrM&feature=related[/url] and this: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex695VSHmSs&feature=related[/url] more in mind... Loser is still apt though.[/QUOTE]Well, Fox News has their own brand of news. Consider it divertissement for … Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by bumsfeld [QUOTE=Aia;848194]>So the US has a long way to go! It'll take not very long to get there if the same socialist policies that are much to blame in Europe for the unemployment rates, continue to be adopted by Congress.[/QUOTE]Actually, most European countries have much better looking numbers than the USA. California's unemployment number just… Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by bumsfeld [QUOTE=jbennet;848813]Got to agree though, there are some people here who make more on the dole (social security) than if they actually got a job... so no incentive tio work... maybe we need to get tougher on these people... Its about 6.5% here.[/QUOTE]Small language conflict here, Social Security in the USA is the rather meager old folks … Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Aia >California's unemployment number just jumped to 11.2%. California could be a country in is own right, comparable to some nations in Europe; capital and population wise. California is one of the most socialist state in USA, perhaps only second to New York. See the results. Re: Unemployment Numbers Community Center Geeks' Lounge by jbennet [QUOTE=bumsfeld;848836]Small language conflict here, Social Security in the USA is the rather meager old folks pension and has little to do with freeloading. Strange that they call the "dole" in Britain "social security".[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobseeker%27s_Allowance[/url] "The Dole, is a form of …