http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Text

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

How about this one?

Does it guarantee the right of the people to keep and bear arms?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Modern_interpretations

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uh.. I think it states so quite clearly:

the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

:)

I can barely wait until Sinkula brings up the third amendment!

In the meantime roll up your sleeves, bare your arms, and go to work!

Its things like the right to bear arms that make me wish that i lived in america. The Gun laws here are crap. You have to have a full firearms license just to own a paintball marker.

In the more civilized parts of the United States, you can not run around bearing a gun! The police has the right to shoot you!

Its things like the right to bear arms that make me wish that i lived in america. The Gun laws here are crap. You have to have a full firearms license just to own a paintball marker.

yeah.. me too.. Oh wait a minute.. I do live in America! Yippee!!!

This would be the only advantage that i can see of living in America however.

commented: America would kick your ass.. :P -2

This would be the only advantage that i can see of living in America however.

Hold it! Actually the food is good and most folks are downright friendly!

When was the last time you have entered your local highschool bearing an AK-47?

This would be the only advantage that i can see of living in America however.

Oh thats right.. Besides the excellent food, high life expectancy, low infant mortality, strong, capitalist economy... great educational and healthcare systems.. strong military and defense programs.. highest standards of living in the world.. all the land and opportunity anyone could desire.. and the blatant fact that America is the greatest country in the world... yea, there is no good reason to live in America, you're right.

If you don't concur with what joshSCH just said, we will send our air force and shock and awe you into compliance!

Oh thats right.. Besides the excellent food, high life expectancy, low infant mortality, strong, capitalist economy... great educational and healthcare systems.. strong military and defense programs.. highest standards of living in the world.. all the land and opportunity anyone could desire.. and the blatant fact that America is the greatest country in the world... yea, there is no good reason to live in America, you're right.

I acctually said thats probably the only reason i would consider moving to America.

I would have to say that there are alot of other countries with better food then america and what you have just rattled off is pretty much the norm for any first world country not just America. Some of the things that you rattled off there even seem shallow to me such as "Highest standard of living".

Exactly how many 'First World' countries are there? And how do the others compare on a point-by-point plot to America over those discussion points?

As i have never been anywhere but australia i couldnt tell you much about other first world counties however it seems to me like america and australia are pretty similar on the points that josh made. I think the main difference is we have a much lower population based on surface area then america. I also heard that we have a better health system here. Aparrently meds and stuff are alot cheaper here then they are over there.

> Does it guarantee the right of the people to keep and bear arms?
I demand the right to keep armed bears!

Perhaps if ammunition were $100 per round, people would be a lot less inclined to shoot at stuff (and other people) with such recklessness.

In the more civilized parts of the United States, you can not run around bearing a gun! The police has the right to shoot you!

And under the constitution you have the right to shoot back, as any such local law is unconstitutional.

The 2nd is designed to prevent such excesses where people have to be afraid of random police brutality as exists in the barbaric areas of the US where firearms are restricted or banned (areas you call "civilised" but aren't).

jwenting, you are blissfully uninformed and watch too many Wild West movies!

I acctually said thats probably the only reason i would consider moving to America.

I would have to say that there are alot of other countries with better food then america and what you have just rattled off is pretty much the norm for any first world country not just America. Some of the things that you rattled off there even seem shallow to me such as "Highest standard of living".

Yes, well I am afraid you are quite wrong.. As of right now, the U.S. is the most powerful country in the world. We have the highest gdp for a nation of this size.. and virtually no unemployment whatsoever.. Our economy is far superior to any other nation.. Australia is just an island to itself.. not much going on there.

>>We have the highest gdp for a nation of this size
USA -- ranked #7

>>and virtually no unemployment whatsoever
Unemployment rate: 4.6 in 2007. ranked 95th (the larger the number the better, there are 94 countries with worse unemployment rates than the USA, and there are 28 or so with better (depending on how you want to count them.)

Olympic Medals/Population: USA ranked 46 Australia: 4

>> Our economy is far superior to any other nation..
Considering the facts I posted above you should be more careful about being so boastful. Get your facts straight first.

jwenting, you are blissfully uninformed and watch too many Wild West movies!

I am in fact quite well informed and haven't seen any Wild West movie in almost a year...

It's just that I let my information come from sources that are more reliable than Michael "give me another dozen Big Macs" Moore.

Mister jwenting must be the Archy Bunker of the Lowlands.

When the second amendment was written arms were knives, sabers, muskets that took ten minutes to load, and single shot pistols. That's what the right to bear arms was intented to cover.

Now you talk about machine guns, automatic weapons, and sniper rifles that can blow your brains out from 2 miles away. Pretty soon we are talking about beam weapons, and photon torpedoes. Where do we stop?

Frankly, I would rather keep those foreign nut cases that want to come her to carry arms away from the USA!

Yes, well I am afraid you are quite wrong.. As of right now, the U.S. is the most powerful country in the world. We have the highest gdp for a nation of this size.. and virtually no unemployment whatsoever.. Our economy is far superior to any other nation.. Australia is just an island to itself.. not much going on there.

The US is the most powerful country because they have all the nukes. As soon as america gets so much of a hint of another country getting nukes nukes as well then america race in and bomb the crap out of them.

Frankly i can see America Crumbling especially your enconomy. 5 years ago 1AUD would buy me around 50 US cents Today it will buy me 80 cents and last week as high as 87.

Personally my bet is down for China to be the next superpower.

The US is the most powerful country because they have all the nukes. As soon as america gets so much of a hint of another country getting nukes nukes as well then america race in and bomb the crap out of them.

hahaha.. :D You better believe it..

Frankly i can see America Crumbling especially your enconomy. 5 years ago 1AUD would buy me around 50 US cents Today it will buy me 80 cents and last week as high as 87.

The US economy is extremely strong.. Whether or not the dollar is strong overseas has relatively very little affect on the economy.. All that means is the buying power is here, and traveling is not such a great idea.

Personally my bet is down for China to be the next superpower.

hmm.. yes, China has been the most powerful country in the past.. and after its combined industrial and technological revolutions have finished.. Look Out! China is back as the world's only superpower.. Well, I guess it's about time for America to bomb them, hu? ;)

hmm.. yes, China has been the most powerful country in the past.. and after its combined industrial and technological revolutions have finished.. Look Out! China is back as the world's only superpower.. Well, I guess it's about time for America to bomb them, hu? ;)

I wouldn't underestimate China though i think you could be in for a bit of a fight there. We've seen how much trouble you guys have had in Iraq. How do you plan on defeating a nation a 1000 times its size?

I know your a Redneck american and love your country and all but is it really nessicary to give me negative rep simply because i point out your country isn't as great as you say and thing it is?

America is pretty low on the list for health care -- 37th on WHO's list with France #1.

Myths & Fact About The American Health Care System

Myth: "Despite its higher costs, the World Health Organizations ranking show that the American health care system ranks only number 37 in quality".

Fact: No, it doesn't show that at all. The ranking is actually only to a small extent a ranking of health care quality. If you check its details it measures mostly other things. What is being measured is mostly things like a population's health level (why this is not a good indicator of health care quality see below) and to what extent financing and treatment is in accordance with the WHO:s socialist ideals. That socialist systems are better in accordance with socialist ideals is hardly surprising and is definitely not a valid indicator of health care quality. The only one of their indicators which measures quality is "level of responsiveness" which is based on patient satisfaction and how quickly and efficient the system works. And in this category the American health care system is....number one!

>>We have the highest gdp for a nation of this size
USA -- ranked #7

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>> Our economy is far superior to any other nation..
Considering the facts I posted above you should be more careful about being so boastful. Get your facts straight first.

List of countries by GDP (nominal)
[edit]List of countries by GDP (PPP)

Adsolute GDP in pure dollars is almost meaningless unless compared with the population size. Sure USA has hightest GDP in pure dollars. But in 2002 there were 6 other countries that had higher GDP/employed population. This is like saying USA has highest crimes in the world, which we do if you count raw numbers. But when compared by crimes per 1,000 population we are 24th in the list..

There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics

Yes you are right. My link was not what I thought it was. Well, your link does not show USA as #1 either -- its 4th. So Josh's boast is still incorrect.

Well, I took his statement to be about an absolute GDP.

I'm splitting hairs and tired of me doing this for now anyway. But visiting those countries Wikipedia entries there are little summaries in a right-hand sidebar. There are things like this.

GDP (PPP) 2006 estimate
- Total $13,020,861m [2] (1st)
- Per capita $43,444 (4th)
GDP (nominal) 2006 estimate
- Total $13,244,550m [2] (1st)
- Per capita $44,190 (8th)

I find it interesting to compare countries' stuff.

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