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Re: How would we poison AI web crawls? 2 Months Ago by Dani To Pebble's point, I genuinely believe that the **** that was spewed in the first post of this thread is not any more sophisticated than those chain messages circulating Facebook that say things like copy and paste the sentence, "I don't give Facebook the authority to blah or the copyright to blah" into a FB post, thinking it will be … Re: How would we poison AI web crawls? 2 Months Ago by Reverend Jim Note: in the previous post I meant to say gibberish instead of content. Re: How would we poison AI web crawls? 2 Months Ago by Fitmovers I'm realizing that "poisoning AI web crawls" could suggest malicious actions, which are often prohibited. Thus, providing guidance for such a request is inappropriate and against policy. Re: How would we poison AI web crawls? 2 Months Ago by Dani > "Kiss my shiny metal ***" Seriously?! Re: How would we poison AI web crawls? 2 Months Ago by Dani > OpenAI rips content, no one bats an eye. Deepsink does same, "They are ripping off our work." I don't know why you think that. In the SEO publishing industry, us publishers have been very vocally complaining that OpenAI, Google, etc. have been stealing our content for at least 2 years now. I think the difference is, as I … Re: How would we poison AI web crawls? 2 Months Ago by Dani I think people are not understanding what I'm saying here. Please allow me to demonstrate: Looking at our Google Analytics right now, I can see that, aside from the top search engines such as Google, Bing, and DuckDuckGo, the next biggest place we get traffic from is ChatGPT. Moreover, the average engagement time per session for visitors finding… Re: How would we poison AI web crawls? 2 Months Ago by Dani > I guess AI is replacing traditional search engine queries? ChatGPT traffic still doesn't surpass Google, but it's definitely way up there. I believe it's heading in that direction, yes. Re: How would we poison AI web crawls? 2 Months Ago by rproffitt Update February 25, 2025 as others are kicking it into high gear to resist certain government data collecting. ![image_2025-02-25_085603458.png](https://static.daniweb.com/attachments/1/3353464f2457b005cccfd76592522cd2.png) And here I was only thinking about poison for the AI bots. Re: How would we poison AI web crawls? 2 Months Ago by Dani As someone who has made a career out of working with ad agencies, and has 3 patents on data mining user behavior within social platforms, that all sounds absolutely abhorrent. Re: How would we poison AI web crawls? 2 Months Ago by Reverend Jim >This makes me think that we need WAAAY more apps that generate junk data Right. That's what we need. Still more junk. We'll just push Sturgeon's law from 90% to 99.99%. That will make things better. Re: How would we poison AI web crawls? 2 Months Ago by Reverend Jim That was my third edit of a response. The first two were basically "old man yelling at clouds". ![2025-02-25_151403.jpg](https://static.daniweb.com/attachments/3/e6a519b49fd69dfed333a4d51fc8e8c2.jpg) Re: How would we poison AI web crawls? 2 Months Ago by Dani This just showed up for me in [Search Engine Roundtable](https://www.seroundtable.com/google-sued-ai-overviews-38958.html). Re: How would we poison AI web crawls? 2 Months Ago by Dani > First is reciprocal dealing, meaning that Google forces companies like Chegg to supply our proprietary content in order to be included in Google’s search function. Basically what I've been saying ;) Re: How would we poison AI web crawls? 1 Month Ago by Dani Is anyone keeping up with the [Chegg lawsuit](https://futurism.com/openai-google-hurting-publishers)? Billions of users could be misled by inadequate malware testing 17 Years Ago by happygeek …, an entire industry might run into trouble and with it, billions of users may be misled by inadequate tests." Government Saves Billions Using Open Source Software. Really? 16 Years Ago by khess …studyfederalgovtcansavebillionsinitspending"]Study: Federal Gov't. Can Save Billions in IT Spending[/URL]," and feel compelled …and OpenOffice.org, the federal government would save billions of dollars in IT costs. This is one …Federal Government--you think you can just go saving billions of dollars by using open source software--really?… UK PLC loses billions to hacker attacks 12 Years Ago by happygeek … the UK is concerned, and the answer is breathtakingly big: billions of pounds. And that was just last year! ![dweb-secreport… cost to UK plc of security breaches is running into billions every year." Barmy Ballmer and his Ba Da Bing Billions 15 Years Ago by newsguy … get it, but even with Barmy Ballmer ready to throw billions into the ring the plain truth is that the search… Re: Billions of users could be misled by inadequate malware testing 17 Years Ago by jwenting So an industry group consisting of a few companies selling malware detection software is claiming that most such software (read, software produced by their competitors) doesn't work properly? Sounds like advertising to me, launch a new "quality logo" or "certification" to show what programs are "guaranteed good" and… Re: Government Saves Billions Using Open Source Software. Really? 16 Years Ago by OlyComputers The government has used open source for years, Los Alamos started implementing Linux on their supercomputers (thousands of clustered nodes that used to use expensive Unix licenses) quite some time ago. I'm a huge proponent of open source, but I know that in the current climate it's really only appropriate in technical environments. Everybody … Re: Government Saves Billions Using Open Source Software. Really? 16 Years Ago by khess You're right, I forgot about the Beowulf clusters up there in Los Alamos. When I think of Federal government, here in the states, I'm not generally thinking of those leading edge places like that. My head turns more toward Washington D. C., the Post Office, and others like that. The propellerheads at places like Los Alamos will always use the cool … Re: Government Saves Billions Using Open Source Software. Really? 16 Years Ago by Salem Tax payers shell out lots of cash for s/w licenses from Microsoft. Govt spots an opportunity to save cash, stops buying expensive licenses and goes open-source. Profits at former multi-billion dollar companies plunge. Former multi-billion dollar companies with a now broken business model for the new world go cap-in-hand for a bail-out. Tax … Re: Government Saves Billions Using Open Source Software. Really? 16 Years Ago by Bobber47 Salem - I presume you're not advocating public support of badly run companies in order to generate jobs and tax dollars. That's what the bailouts appear to be to some, but these are just another example of govt subsidizing industry to generate theoretically greater rewards. Though the consequences are dire either way, hopefully we have chosen … Re: Government Saves Billions Using Open Source Software. Really? 16 Years Ago by Techwriter10 Great post, Ken. Loved it. Nice job. Ron Re: Government Saves Billions Using Open Source Software. Really? 16 Years Ago by woooee Don't forget that the NSA maintains SELinux (maybe someone should tell the British Navy). I would guess that a study is the first step in the process towards moving away from expensive, proprietary software. A member of Congress would not really stand up and say "I think we might save a few bucks if..", but would say "This official… Re: Government Saves Billions Using Open Source Software. Really? 14 Years Ago by nmstategov Government workers (especially those in State/Local govenments) are generally not the most tech-savvy, so the issue of having to spend more supporting OS desktop users vs MS desktop users is a wash - doesn't matter what you give them, they'll still needs lots of hand-holding. Can't understand why State/Local govts don't adopt OS? The obvious - … Re: UK PLC loses billions to hacker attacks 12 Years Ago by LastMitch >When it comes to successful hacks, 15% of those large enterprise defences were penetrated at an average cost of between £110,000 and £250,000. Smaller businesses were faced with an average cost, in terms of disruption, brand damage and clear up of between £15,000 and £30,000. Wow, that's alot of pound's. I am really curious what kind group is … Re: Barmy Ballmer and his Ba Da Bing Billions 15 Years Ago by aaln Microsoft's ultimate goal in life is to make money- absurd amounts at any cost. When they caught wind of Google's (financial) success, they decided to venture into that market. However, there's another reality that few companies should ignore: The future of personal computer technologies is "Cloud Computing". Soon, the majority of … Global warming solution? 17 Years Ago by stevex … Can be constructed with off the shelf items. 7. Billions of dollars in savings. 8. As safe or safer than… largest invention. The current costs and payments run into billions of dollars per year. What I am proposing, amounts… thus reliving the gas shortage problem. Item Number 7. Billions of dollars in savings. First off, let's stop … Cloud Prospecting: The Search for Gold in a Silver Mine 16 Years Ago by khess …and make a successful cloud-oriented business. Are they making billions from their new enterprise? No. Will they? Probably not… in the Cloud? Yes. Will they all make the billions that they now predict? No. Why not, you ask…next "bubble" market with lots of hype, billions invested, maximum leverage and speculation and then the cloud …