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[christina>you]

she playes the counting game lol

haha that too!

[christina>you]

I have studied the scriptures longer that your are alive.

What exactly have you studied?

But don't be surprise if sometime ahead as we know more about this existence, positions change among religious leaders about the origin of humanity, since it will impossible to sustain a literal interpretation of Genesis. By the way, in my previous post I was referring to the Creation of the Universe as a whole, or more clearly, to the representation of the six periods of the Creation.

I doubt the beliefs of this religion will die or change. It's very unlikely that people will start to disbelieve the theory of creationism if they are Christian.
And what about the creation of the universe? It's in the Bible also....

[jbennet]

lol most boring game evr but oh so addictive lol

[Serunson]

the counting game?
wow sounds like fun ~ might up my daily posts

[jbennet]

lol

hey serunson, come on the daniweb irc channel for some IM

http://www.daniweb.com/chat/javachat.php

[Aia]

What exactly have you studied?

The forty books that constitude our James version of The Old Testament.
The twenty-seven books that made it in what we call today The New Testament.
The Gnostic Gospels
The Apocrypha
The history of Ancient Israel.
The Historical Jesus and early Christianity.
The Apostacy.
I have made an effort to be not extranger to the scriptures. And I
have studied since very early in my life.

I doubt the beliefs of this religion will die or change. It's very unlikely that people will start to disbelieve the theory of creationism if they are Christian.
And what about the creation of the universe? It's in the Bible also....

If you think that the Christianity that you believe today is the same
that in early times... well I don't know what to tell you. But you need to investigate a little more, because is not.

And I'm sorry but this is where I must stop replying in this thread.
It never fails. There's always someone that thinks that his/her faith
is right, therefore God is in his/her side. Every one else that don't
suscribe to his/her precepts is wrong.

Now go ahead and give me all the bad reps that you want for not be happy with my words.

[christina>you]

The forty books that constitude our James version of The Old Testament.
The twenty-seven books that made it in what we call today The New Testament.
The Gnostic Gospels
The Apocrypha
The history of Ancient Israel.
The Historical Jesus and early Christianity.
The Apostacy.
I have made an effort to be not extranger to the scriptures. And I
have studied since very early in my life.

Why? If you're not Christian, then why did you take the time out to study all these things?

If you think that the Christianity that you believe today is the same
that in early times... well I don't know what to tell you. But you need to investigate a little more, because is not.

Well of course Christianity has changed, I'm just saying the beliefs haven't. [Most] Christians still believe that Jesus was born of a virgin, walked among men sinless, died innocently on a cross, and rose again 3 days later.

And I'm sorry but this is where I must stop replying in this thread.
It never fails. There's always someone that thinks that his/her faith
is right, therefore God is in his/her side. Every one else that don't
suscribe to his/her precepts is wrong.

I don't think that everyone who disagrees with me is wrong, I just simply stand up for what I believe in... how is this wrong in any way? =/

[christina>you]

Now go ahead and give me all the bad reps that you want for not be happy with my words.

And why would I do this? =/ You need to calm down...

[Aia]

Contrary to what I said that I would not responde any more to this
thread, I'm going to clarify something for you, since I haven't left
yet.

Why? If you're not Christian, then why did you take the time out to study all these things?

What makes you think I'm not a Christian?. For the record I am
a devote follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. I practice his teachings,
and I firmly believe in the Atonement that He brought to the family of Adam.

Well of course Christianity has changed, I'm just saying the beliefs haven't. [Most] Christians still believe that Jesus was born of a virgin, walked among men sinless, died innocently on a cross, and rose again 3 days later.

My dear lady. You don't have a remote idea of what you are saying.
Certanly, today that is the case. But not always it has being. Some early christians didn't think He was born of a virgin.
Some believed that He was not "divine", others believed that He was half human-half divine. Ohers believed that He never die. That God took him before He died crucified. Some christians believed that Christ never resurrected. Etc, etc..., And all those were acceptable perfect christians. In fact sects arose where some christian churches believed only in the words of Saul or apostol Paul. Others believed only in the words of some other apostol.
Without going into more details, I sugest you, if you want to sincerely know more about, that you read the work of Professor Bart D. Ehrman from the University of North Carolina, a book title:
"Misquoting Jesus". That is the easier book that explains some of
the concepts I just told you.

I don't think that everyone who disagrees with me is wrong, I just simply stand up for what I believe in... how is this wrong in any way? =/

And why would I do this? =/ You need to calm down...

Again you are making assumptions about me. I'm fine. I'm calm.

[christina>you]

What makes you think I'm not a Christian?. For the record I am
a devote follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. I practice his teachings,
and I firmly believe in the Atonement that He brought to the family of Adam.

Oh okay, I wasn't clear on that... I didn't think you were.

My dear lady. You don't have a remote idea of what you are saying.
Certanly, today that is the case. But not always it has being. Some early christians didn't think He was born of a virgin.
Some believed that He was not "divine", others believed that He was half human-half divine. Ohers believed that He never die. That God took him before He died crucified. Some christians believed that Christ never resurrected. Etc, etc..., And all those were acceptable perfect christians. In fact sects arose where some christian churches believed only in the words of Saul or apostol Paul. Others believed only in the words of some other apostol.
Without going into more details, I sugest you, if you want to sincerely know more about, that you read the work of Professor Bart D. Ehrman from the University of North Carolina, a book title:
"Misquoting Jesus". That is the easier book that explains some of
the concepts I just told you.

I see what you are saying.
But the keywords here are 'some' and 'others.' I understand that the branches of Christianity believe differently, they always have and always will.

[Aia]

I see what you are saying.
But the keywords here are 'some' and 'others.' I understand that the branches of Christianity believe differently, they always have and always will.

They all kind of merged at the time of the Council of Nicaea presided
by the Roman Emperator Flavius Valerius Aurelius Constantinus

[christina>you]

They all kind of merged at the time of the Council of Nicaea presided
by the Roman Emperator Flavius Valerius Aurelius Constantinus

Ahh... I see.

[Serunson]

well on the subject (barely) i heard these lyrics that i just had to post
in the song "There goes God" by Crowded House, some lyrics are as follows, "Oh dont look now, there goes god, in his sexy pants, and his sausage dog."
Just had to post it :)

[jbennet]

lol you said that in college and i was like "you post that and they will kill you". Lets just wait and see...

[Serunson]

why will they kill me, it's a lyric fool
i'm only quoting lyrics

[sk8ndestroy14]

Ha, are those really lyrics from a song? Who would say that?

[jbennet]

yeah, they are actually lyrics by Crowded House, i checked.

[sk8ndestroy14]

Never heard of that band.

[jbennet]

They are british and 80s

[WaltP]

Another song that really exists (honestly)

Drop Kick Me Jesus Through the Goal Posts of Life!

See, told ya!
And if you really want to sing it, check here.

[Serunson]

i think mine is funnier dont u think!

[WaltP]

Didn't know it was a contest:icon_smile:

[jbennet]

He gets way to competitive.....

[Serunson]

of course i do bennet ~ that is the point of me, sarcasm and competitiveness!

[christina>you]

Soo...
are there any more questions/debates about God we haven't covered? ;o)

[jbennet]

nope, i think its about time to mark it as read

[Aia]

Soo...
are there any more questions/debates about God we haven't covered? ;o)

Nope, let's give God a deserved rest. By now, He probably could use
another Sabbath day of rest.

[~s.o.s~]

<sarcasm>
No please don't stop yet. You have come really far people, lets post some more random things about God and make this thread one with 100 pages(currently its 99).
</sarcasm>

;-)

[Aia]

<sarcasm>
No please don't stop yet. You have come really far people, lets post some more random things about God and make this thread one with 100 pages(currently its 99).
</sarcasm>

;-)

We have to leave some room for the noobie that will come along
and will resurrect this thread ten years from now.

[Serunson]

well actually come to think of it............
oh it probs been said a thousand times...........