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I like debian again now etch is out. I use it for my school laptop (used to use centos 4.4) and my LAMP server. A full Gnome desktop (tweaked out) uses only 58mb RAM of RAM on my laptop, miles better than ubuntu

However, ubuntu does own debian when it comes to a: look b: plug and play and c: media (got to love easyubuntu). Also its only 1 cd. Etch comes on 4 DVDS!. I use ubutnu onall my desktop pcs

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i'm starting to go with sled now, everything just works so well with it, but for low end machines, debian is probably the best.

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Yeah, debian or CentOS rule for old machines. Slack used to be good but 11.0 is slow IMHO and also once you try apt, you never go back.

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no offense to any one, but slack is just for really big nerds who have nothing better to do.

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It used to be good for building oses for low spec machines though (you can choose individual packages) but like i said, IMHO the current version is a bit slow.

I dislike SLED. It never played nice with my wifi card.

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In the past year, I've used ubuntu, red hat, debian, and mandriva.. Ubuntu was my favorite by a long shot, and it is the only linux distru I use today. It's just so much easier to use than the others.. Especially for linux beginners

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Yeah, i would never use it for a server though (for that i use debian etch netinstall) as its based on devel packages and uses sudo but for a desktop you cant beat it.

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Sles might be a bit bloated for servers as its GUI by default. Fedora is also a bit too cutting edge for my taste but RHEL/CentOS are good

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yeah, sles is geared towards enterprises and i do agree fedora is too cutting edge, i've actaully never used centos, i'm goint to try it right now.

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CentOS is Redhat Enterprise except free. Version 5 roughly = bits from Fedora 5/6 and Version 4.4 roughly = bits from Fedora 2/3

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centos could find my scsi drive in vmware, so i had to change it to ide, now it seems to be installing.

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Which version do you have, 4.4 or 5?

CentOS 3 and upwards install fine on my SCSI Compaq Proliant Server.

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4.3?

Did you get that off thier site?

4.4 is the most stable. 5 is the newest but most people wont switch until 5.1

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I got it off my schools website. We get access to most microsoft's products like windows server enterprise, dos 6.11, exchange 2003, visio 2007, random software like that.

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The trend is not surprising at all. Debian has a niche for servers, being that it runs older, more stable packages. Ubuntu has more appeal for desktop users and is making a name for itself in its attempt to draw users from the Windows userbase. However, few sysadmins will be willing to use Ubuntu as a server for a while, mainly because of it's use of new and not as proven packages (notice the security alerts for Ubuntu on the Google Trends page). There are a few people who used to use Debian for their desktop who may switch to Ubuntu.

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only reason i use ubuntu over etch is that it has EasyUbuntu and Automatix and is livecd and 1cd.

Listen Debian people if you are reading - 1cd! - Not over 10!

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debian has like 21 cd's, or like 6 dvd's, i'm doing a debian network install and it's been about a day, it's only at 11%, or 12% I haven't checked.

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A day?

If I choose:

Standard System
Desktop
Laptop

It takes like an hour on 2mb?

A general purpouse server with no gui takes about the same

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well here's my setup,
Internet------>modem------>router----->computers
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10baset hub
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computer and servers.
so i need to either get a 100baset hub or a switch

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>Listen Debian people if you are reading - 1cd! - Not over 10!
Since people who are downloading Linux probably have broadband internet anyway, it's probably not much of a stretch to choose the Debian NetInstall CD, which usually saves you downloading, because you are only forced to download the packages you actually need.\

My favorites for servers: Slackware, Gentoo, and Debian. All solid and reliable, and have a pretty wide range of machines that they can run on.

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