yeah cause i ned to save my sites backup files somewhere and i dont know if this is the right cateogry but i dont know mods can chagne it but does anyone know where to upload site backup files for safe keeping for free? cause they can get kind of big

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Good points from about keeping copies on removable media and from about treating the live site as a working copy. If you want an offsite option that avoids hardware, free cloud storage plus simple automation gives the best balance of convenience and safety.

Consider reputable free cloud providers (Google Drive, Dropbox, MEGA, Box) for an offsite copy, and use a sync tool when you want automated uploads. For encryption and scripted uploads look at tools such as rclone for moving files to many providers and GnuPG for client-side encryption before you upload.

A practical workflow:

  • Create a single compressed archive of the site (so you only upload one file).
  • Encrypt the archive locally with GnuPG before uploading.
  • Upload with a provider web client or automate the transfer with rclone so uploads can run on a schedule.
  • Verify integrity by keeping a checksum locally and doing a periodic test restore to confirm the archive decrypts and extracts.

Notes and cautions: free services vary in per-file size limits, retention and inactivity policies, and bandwidth — check the terms before relying on one provider. Do not upload unencrypted database dumps or files containing credentials. Keep at least two different offsite copies (different providers or one cloud + one offsite physical copy) and test restores regularly so you are sure backups actually work.

For : if your backups are very large, pick a provider that supports large-file uploads or split the archive before uploading. Automating the process avoids human error and makes weekly backups painless.

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Have you though of storing them on your computer/memory stick or CD perhaps?
I know you can store up to 25GB on sky drive for free.
Does your Host not offer online backups?

no they offer backups just i was wonderin where to store them in case my computer got u know crashed or something and the site got lost or something. microsoft skydrive has a limit of 50mb per upload. i never thot of flash drive or usb stick i forgot about those. i guess that would be the best bet wouldnt it? no limit to filesize?

If it were me I would create an archive of the site and burn it to CD-R and keep a copy on the PC.

Burning to a CD-R gives you a permanent backup and if you have multiple backups on a disk you can roll back to the one required, just incase the last backup had something wrong with it.

It is quite easy to erase information on a USB stick I have accidentally done it quite a few times.

cd-r that means rewriteable? is that better than dvds?

cd-r that means rewriteable? is that better than dvds?

no no. CD-R is writable, CD-RW is rewriteable.

CD-R's are cheaper than DVD's. CD-R's can be burnt too faster as well.
A DVD holds more data though. If you site backup is less than 700MB us CD-R otherwise use a DVD-R.

FYI CD's hold approx. 700MB, DVD's hold approx. 4.7GB.

oh i want to get a dvd rw if i have large site and backup every week?

That sounds reasonable, I'd get a few DVD-RW and fill them with backups then when you run out of space get rid of the old backups and replace with new ones.

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I develop my websites using my own computer, so the backup is really the version on the WEB. If it crashes I can just upload again.

The exception here is dynamic data like the database(s). I'm not familiar with scheduled backups of DBs, but I guess you could have it done at regular intervals and download the files(s) at your convenience.

There are many ways to store your backups locally. Some have been suggested already. Personally, I use external HDs. 1000 GB doesn't cost much nowadays, and it's a once only expense (Well, more or less! :) )

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