I need them :)
All I want is above, maybe I can explain again using different words.. I want that when I load page1, it will focus on the page2 which is loaded by a frame at the bottom of page1. Also, I don't want to touch page1 in any way, I need this ONLY if the page2 can do this trick.
Does that have any real meaning at all (for frames)? My guess was that an input needed focus.
you can apply focus to any element,
for this usage, focus is transferred to the body element within the frame, which of course fails(as expected) in any real sennse, leaving the frame in focus. <<--- what happens when you 'hmmm'' when trying to gather your thoughts and voice recognition is turned on
focus on an input item allows data entry, because the element is capable of entry
focus on an element that can do nothing, does nothing