I have had an ipod and m sick of it, i use my PDA or my N81 8gb. The worst thing about ipod is u ll have to have i tunes to download music onto it which i think is a bit of pain. I d rather be dragging and droppin stuff onto my players than shufflin the playlist. Also itunes makes pc run slower as well which is why i dont recommend it ever. So my idea of mp3/mp4 player is where u can just drag n drop stuff rather than using a specialist software.