how can i make it so you can type a paragram in one textbox then press a button and it codes all the letters to another thing that you preset so it shows in another textbox? also how can i make a list of names randomize and have a certain percent for each one? i am seriously trying to learn vb.net(someone said i wasnt) but i have looked at ebooks, you guys recomend i try my own programs so im trying a few, but i still cant find any good ebooks or online tutorials, right now the programs i am working on is (hopefully it will work) one of my classes i heard i have to write a paragraph in bianary code, so i tryed to make a program to get some experience, i think worst come to worst and i cant have it convert it over, i can always have it use buttons, and the random list one is a program i was doing to practice and it is a lottery type program for me to mess around, i have it set up to add ppl to the list view and the number of tickets they buy, and i can make it randomize a number ticket, i just cant tie that to a name, and i cant save the list. all things for me to work on and increase my knowledge of vb. i guess it also doesnt help that when i look at your guy's coding, i cant try and do them, its probably because ive got an older version. i have Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003. im open for any help. that includes help finding good tutorials and with my programs.