Because we used to have scrollbars and they were just so annoying, I did all that I could to get rid of them. For example, if the first line of a code block was extra long, you had to scroll all the way down to the bottom of the code block, use the horizontal scrollbars to see what's most right, then scroll all the way back up, see the remainder of the first line, then scroll back down, move the horizontal scrollbar back to its default position, and then scroll back up and continue reading line two. So annoying! The current solution is:
Line one Line one Line one Line one Line one Line one Line one Line one Line one Line one Line one Line one Line one Line one Line one Line one Line one Line one Line one Line one Line one Line one
Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two Line two
See ... automatic wrapping :) So that eliminates the need for scrollbars. Regardless of that, when I print out code, I tend to use horizontal paper orientation so that there are as fewest line wraps as possible. I like to read as much code on one line as possible. And it's not like the old font size we had (which is what the snippets are) is just so small that people were constantly having problems trying to read it.
I don't like that format at all, sorry. :( I like to see as much as possible at once, with the least amount of scrolling involved.
I splurged on a 30" monitor specifically so that I can see as much as possible at a time when I'm coding without having to scroll. I don't like the idea of all my code now being forced into a fixed size <div> .
It also looks as if DevShed's posts are the same size as ours now are. And I just don't like that size Courier New - it looks awkward to me, I don't know why.
Maybe it's just me. Or maybe it's the forum style constantly changing that bugs me.
I don't really know. When I first came here to DaniWeb, the theme seemed decent. A year later, I still think it's (more or less) decent. It doesn't seem that much better than when I first came here.
It's not just you, Joe. This is something I've brought up before too. I don't believe I've made my point very well.
What I see/saw is/was is something like this. A while back there was an effort here at "community building"; all-in-all a worthwhile endeavor. But some of the effects of the changes seemed to go contrary to this goal.
Many of the changes were nifty for a newcomer to the site. But the changes also had the effect of "ruining" posts already made by those that had been here a while and were already good contributors to the community. So some of these contributors now contribute less.
From my perspective, the implementation of these changes had the effect of driving away folks "older" folks in favor of "newer" ones. It also had the effect of trashing some old tutorials and things in the process.
So Joe, as one who has a history of contributions, if some of the stuff you took the time to write now looks a little "screwed up" from what you originally wrote, does that make you more or less likely to spend the time either "fixing" things back up (lesson: don't contribute too much!), or simply not spending the time in the first place?
Anyways, my point is and always will be lost. Changes will come and go, and probably so too those that contribute most. I guess if the turnover has a net positive gain it's good for the site. But I wouldn't say that this is "community building". But that's just my opinion.
For the code block styling, I do like the auto-wrapping for long lines, but sometimes it would be nice if there was a scrollable div for the code. Not all of us have 30" monitors, and when someone posts 100+ lines of code it would be nice to limit the amount of scrolling necessary to get past their code. Just my $.02 on that...
The font sizes are fine to me. I prefer a slighly larger size just because it's easier on the eyes. And I'm still to young to be wearing those out :P
> and when someone posts 100+ lines of code it would be nice to limit the amount of scrolling necessary to get past their code
That's one of the reasons why the size of the code snippets wasn't increased as well (because code snippets tend to be rather long and can lead to a lot of scrolling). But at the same time, code is just as important a part of a post, and I would assume that when reading threads in the programming forums, one would not very often skip past all of the code the majority of the time.
Although I might eventually get used to this new font size, I see several problems here as already mentioned by other members:If we make the font size larger, then the code size looks too small.If we make the code size larger, then it wraps too much.If we put in a scrollbar for the code, there's too much scrolling for a lot of members with larger screens (like me).
I just noticed that the page margin border has changed. Everytime I come here something is different. I used to like change, but now I'm not so sure.
I agree. I think dani feels a bit unapreciated and is a bit fed up and that she cant please everyone.
That's the problem. By constantly changing the forum style to please everyone, it annoys people who have gotten used to the style.
Adding a feature? Fine with me, if it's an obvious improvement that has few disruptions to the rest of the layout at DaniWeb. Changing a style which has been around for quite some time? Uh.... take great caution when doing it, that's all I can say.
Or give users the ability to modify the text size in their user CP?
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