Is today the worst day of the recession? A lot of people seem to think so.

I’ll get into that in a moment, in an otherwise light trading day for technology stocks. I think we’re seeing a run out of tech this week and into more stable companies, especially in the consumer staples marketplace.

Watching CNBC this morning I saw Grant Tinker, global portfolio manager at Axa Framlington Gemini, talking about the flight to stability. "Buy great companies at fair prices, instead of fair companies at great prices," Tinker said. He thinks that the U.S. 'nifty fifty' is a good place to invest, with household names like Johnson & Johnson, Wal-Mart, Colgate-Palmolive, and McDonald's. It’s all about protecting your money from further losses. Said Tinker; “They won't be the leaders in a bear-market rally, but they will be the leaders in a new bull market.”

Back to the recession. With 533,000 jobs lost in the past month, CNBC was once again the place to be – if you want to get a grip on what the horrific jobs number means to the economy. Strangely, the market seemed pretty passive about the jobs number, only off about 100 points in mid-day trading. Most experts on CNBC seem to think that the number represented the bottom of the recession, with some calling it the worst day of the recession, adding that we can only go up from here.

• “This is history,” says economist Ram Bhagavatula. “December payrolls will be weak as well. The leading indicators will come from a slow re-activation of the credit markets and increases in consumer spending. You should begin to see that in the next couple of months.”

• "Every recession has its worst day, and this is probably the worst day," added Chris Rupkey of Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi.

• "The job number is a unique number because it reflects an unprecedented economic situation, which began with the bankruptcy of Lehman on Sept 15, “ says Federal Reserve analyst David Jones, of DMJ advisors. “The economy has never been shut down as quicly as it was following that bankruptcy. The economic response to that cut off in credit is unprecedented.” Jones points out that the last time we saw a jobs number that bad was in 1974, when the economy shed 600,000 jobs in one month. But that was the lowpoint during that recession – job losses were nowhere near as bad after that.

• “Severe drops like this (the Sept.-Nov payrolls ) cannot be sustained,” says Robert Brusca, chief economist at Fact & Opinion Economics. “It suggests we are getting so weak there will be a turnaround."

• “There's now starting to be some visibility about how this might end.” Says David Resler, chief economist at Nomura International. Resler adds that sinking gasoline prices, lower interest rates, and a pickup in housing sales, along with a probable stimulus package from Washington in January could give the economy a nice bounce in 2009.

I’ve said all along that this financial mess was grounded in the declining housing market, the one appreciable asset and subsequent piggy bank for so many homeowners over the past few years – until prices started dropping, of course. So when the U.S. Treasury announced that it would buy up 600,000 in mortgage-backed securities, interest rates fell, and the mortgage market picked up speed again. That’s the kind of momentum we’ll need to get the economy moving again.

Having said that, I like the theory that the worst jobs number in 35 years represents a bottom. We’ll know for sure next month. If job losses look better, then we should know we’re on our way back from the brink.

Dani AI

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Short expert note tied to the thread: the phrase "worst day of the recession" mixes two different things — a headline shock (a single bad jobs print or a big one‑day market drop) and the actual trough of the recession. The official business‑cycle chronology is set by the NBER, which later determined the 2007–2009 downturn reached its trough in mid‑2009. For markets, the price low came earlier in the spring of 2009. See the NBER announcement and a market retrospective for that timing. (nber.org)

If the goal is to judge whether a headline day marks a bottom, use a small dashboard instead of a sound bite. Watch: (1) weekly initial unemployment claims for high‑frequency labor stress, (2) monthly payrolls and the unemployment rate for the labor‑market trend, (3) quarterly real GDP and industrial production for output, and (4) credit spreads and lending conditions for the flow of finance. Primary sources to check are the Department of Labor weekly claims releases, the BLS Employment Situation releases, and BEA GDP releases. Those series together give a far firmer read than any anchor commentator. (dol.gov)

On investing: rotations into more defensive names (staples, healthcare, utilities, strong balance‑sheet companies) are a common way to reduce downside during severe selloffs, but "defensive" does not mean immune — these sectors can still fall in a broad bear market. Use sector valuation, free‑cash‑flow and leverage as selectors rather than labels alone. See sector performance research for historical patterns. (spglobal.com)

A few practical takeaways tied to the replies: asked the right question; was correct to urge skepticism of cable chatter — primary data beats punditry. For members worried about who gets hit hardest in recessions (as and noted), the impacts are uneven across industries and demographic groups; migration and nativity breakdowns and CPS/BLS tables give the best evidence. If you want a short follow‑up: list the three series above you care about, check them month‑to‑month, and treat any single "worst day" headline as a data point, not a verdict. (policycommons.net)

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The entertainment channel known as CNBC is the last place you should look for perspectives on the financial situation.

this economic racistion was almost only for ALL foreign legal workers here in in America. they tried to lay-off those hard working legal workers and being a foreigner we can feel what is happening right now - even in job application/hunting. it's UNFAIR and I can't believe it was happening....goodluck to all fellow foreigners.

I accept your content. Its always the foreigners legally working get all the job cut off and all the worst cinereous.

yes,really today s the bad day for recession..

Its time for the IT companies to get into work as the recession is slowly getting down.

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