im sorry to post so many things on video cards but i found this card VisionTek Xtasy 9200se 128MB DDR PCI Video Card is this card just has good has the ATI Radeon 9200se? and it says directx8.1 but it should suport directx 9.0 right?

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The short answer: the VisionTek Xtasy 9200SE PCI is a budget Radeon 9200 SE (RV280) and is a DirectX 8.1–class GPU (Shader Model 1.4). VisionTek’s wording that it “works in DirectX 9” refers to driver/runtime compatibility, not to the card supporting DirectX 9’s newer shader features in hardware. was correct to warn that installing the DirectX 9 runtime doesn’t add PS2.0/SM2 hardware capability; ’s VisionTek note is a common source of confusion. TechPowerUp Radeon 9200 SE specs. (techpowerup.com)

Performance context and upgrade path: the 9200SE is a cut‑down, low‑end part and, when used on the PCI bus, is further limited by bandwidth compared with AGP cards. True DirectX 9 / Shader Model 2.0 hardware came with the R300/R350 generation (Radeon 9700/9800 family), so if future titles need PS2.0 features an AGP 9xxx part will be noticeably faster and more future‑proof — exactly the point behind ’s “you’ll wish you bought a 9800” warning. AGP vs PCI bandwidth/history · TechPowerUp Radeon 9800 (DX9/SM2.0). (electronicdesign.com)

Practical recommendation based on the thread: if the board truly has no AGP slot and a new PC is months away, the 9200SE PCI is a reasonable stopgap for older DX8/DX9 titles that include PS1.x fallbacks (’s Thief experience matches that — Thief: Deadly Shadows targets Pixel Shader 1.1). To get the best out of it: install the latest vendor drivers, use modest resolutions (800x600–1024x768), turn down shader/lighting effects, and treat it as temporary. For titles that require PS2.0 or newer, plan on an AGP/PCI‑Express DX9‑class card instead. Thief: Deadly Shadows system requirements (PS 1.1). (store.steampowered.com)

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im sorry to post so many things on video cards but i found this card VisionTek Xtasy 9200se 128MB DDR PCI Video Card is this card just has good has the ATI Radeon 9200se? and it says directx8.1 but it should suport directx 9.0 right?

No, it does not support DX9.

You can install DX9, but the card won't be able to support any of the extra features that DX9 has because it just isn't capable of such.

No current game makes use of DX9 on any large scale.

umm feigned im sorry but i need to correct you I went to the Visiontek website and the 9200se fully supports DX8.1 and DX9

umm feigned im sorry but i need to correct you I went to the Visiontek website and the 9200se fully supports DX8.1 and DX9

Just because you can install it doesn't mean it's going to use the hardware features of DX9 worth a shit.

Pixel Shaders aren't that huge of deal with today's games...give it six months and you'll wish you bought a 9800 series card.

im sorry in an earlier post i mentioned my pc didt have agp slots and in another six months ill have a new pc

Your last post on how your board doesnt have AGP slots all The new bad ass cards comming up & out are only AGP

Specifications
ATI Radeon 9200 SE VPU
200 MHz VPU Core
PCI Bus
128MB or 64MB DDR Memory
Memory Clock: 166MHz (333MHz DDR)
Dual 400MHz DACs
API Support: DirectX 8.1 (works in DirectX 9.0), OpenGL
Connectors: VGA, DVI-I, TV/S Video (128MB version only)


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f575gtc Did you ever find what videocard you wanted to play (new)HALO on?

im going with the Visiontek Xtacy 9200se 128MB pci card I think thats the best and pci video card there is
(i could be wrong)

Just because you can install it doesn't mean it's going to use the hardware features of DX9 worth a shit.

Pixel Shaders aren't that huge of deal with today's games...give it six months and you'll wish you bought a 9800 series card.

Sorry. The Xtacy 9200se does indeed support Pixel Shaders. Thief : Deadly Shadows will not play without this technology and I'm playing it just fine. ;)

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