I downloaded a free trial of Spy Sweeper, and it has since found CnsMin + 44 traces in my computer. SS tells me that I cannot quarantine or remove until I subscribe (pay). Ok. So I tried some other things: ewido, xoftspy, ccleaner, as well as an on-line cnsmin scan & re-name/delete...at the command prompt. None of these things can even find it! Is in in effect quarantined by SS? The number of traces isn't growing... If I take SS out, will it leave the bad stuff behind, and hidden somewhere? Now what?