Posts by GrimJack

Not true. A historian name Josephus did in fact write one (two) sentence on Jesus, showing he probably did exist.

Those 2 sentences are in dispute; various scholars point out various inconsistencies in the phrasing and the inclusions. It is most commonly thought that later translators changed the wording of the sentences to turn them into references to jc

And AFAIK, not one of the 4 'writers' ever met him. Their names were given to the gospels but had ho part in the actual writing. I believe the earliest gospel was written over 100 years after the death of Jesus.

The Gospel of John differs markedly from the other three books both in tone and in some historical details. John does not follow the timeline in the other three and adds quite a few stories and details not found in them. For this reason, it's thought that John's gospel was not a child of Q, but a completely original work either by someone who knew Jesus directly or by one of his associates. The three letters of John found near the end of the New Testament are generally assumed to have been written by this same individual.

The identity of John has remained a mystery, although tradition has it that he is "the disciple that Jesus loved" mentioned in John 13:23. But here is a curious thing. In the entire gospel, John never mentions his own name (although he does mention other gospel writers). His …

I drink bourbon and coke, normally - when I drink beer I go for something like Arrogant Bastard or just about and IPA with an IBU above 70.

British rapper Lady Sovereign

Well then I'm asking a mod to close his thread now.

We are having fun - go away if you don't like it.

I started on a VAX 11/750 then we added a 780 that was soon upgraded to a 782 that we 'clustered' adding a micro-vax then we added the 8nnn series. I worked at NOAA here in Seattle in the early 80s. We had PDP-11s in a back room to play with. I worked VAXen from Seattle to Raleigh then DEC was bought out by COMPAQ and discontinued - by the time I made it back to Seattle in 1999, there were no more VAXs to work on and I became a perma-temp.

This thread needs to be closed now

Didn't you start this thread? You can close it any time if the discussion bothers you that much

Strange that the Bible is the world's best selling book, estimates are in excess of 6,000,000,000 (yes, that's 6 Billion copies) in over 2,000 languages (and those stats are 20 years old). Link here. I think the atheists are outnumbered. That, of course, does not mean 6 billion people bought it, many people own more than 1 copy.

We don't really worry too much about being outnumbered unless/until the believers start killing the non-believers again. WRT it being a best selling book, one would have to know what sorts of numbers those are - are the books being bought by individuals for their own use or are the books being bought in bulk by groups who give them away? It is true that I have 3 bibles in my library, but I also have a couple of Q'rans, some books of the dead from various cultures, Burton's Kama Sutra (divergence: Captain Sir Richard Francis Burton is my hero, my favorite author, and my favorite biography - though I only have a couple of his biographies - I did finally manage to get my hands on a Burton Society 16 volume set of his translation of the 1,001 Arabian Nights which includes his 6 volume commentary on stories and culture /digression), Popol Vuh (Mayan book of the Dawn of Life) - on my side table right next to me I have a translation of the Dead Sea Scrolls and The Aprocyphal Jesus which is a look at the early …

you remember Visicalc - and know that, by itself, was why the pc was such a success. Before visicalc, it would take a hundred accountants 3 months to change just one assumption in a forecast.

well, i am not as you would say " A Bible Thumper" but i do KNOW this:
even the ones that say they do not believe in God..
i promise you, you have 100 people on a train that is screaming off a cliff..and i can guarantee you MOST of those 100 people will say something to the effect of "OH NO GOD...NOT TODAY..PLEASE.

Your promises mean nothing - this is a pointless argument with no relevance to anything.

and i also know that the biggest and the bestest lie that satan ever invented was to get people to believe that God doesnt exist.

You do not know this, you believe this. And the actual quote is "the biggest lie that satan invented is that satan does not exist" not that god does not exist

(and it is really funny how some people can believe the devil exists yet they do not believe that God exists.

No, this is not funny - this is a stupid, made up belief of yours

AND..
if you look deeply enough into it, you will even find that Satan himself knows God does exist.

no, this is another meaningless statement.

so..i am really not sure where the problem lies.

Of course you do not know where the problem lies because you are clueless.

if you do not wish to believe in Christianity..then believe this:
the law of things..
there is a flip side to every coin.

meaningless blather where …

>> children held in the left arm, nearest the heart would be quieted/soothed by the mother's heartbeat vs. a child held in the right arm would tend to be fussier and thus the mother would be less successful at bringing down 'food'.

If there's a Darwinian advantage to being right-handed, even a slight one, then the left-handed folks should have all died off by now. Every generation should have a lower percentage of lefties than the prior one till with enough generations there are none left.

Not true! Darwinism is not survival of the fittest. What Darwinism says is that traits that offer more chances for success will tend towards more reproductive opportunities. This would lead to, in this case, more right handed people than left handed people. This is not the same as saying left handedness is anti-survival and left handed people will all die.

Everyone jokes about the 'Darwin Awards' but they are just that - a joke. Risk takers die so you would think that risk takers would weed themselves out but they don't because sometimes it is the risk takers that survive and everyone else dies.

Darwinism is small, statistically insignificant effects over huge periods of time - it is not the idiot that jumps out of a plane without his parachute.

Umm... there is substantial data to support that handedness is at least partly genetic,

I really like the 'Throwing Madonna' theory of handedness. Women who could hold their children quietly and throw a weapon at 'food' would have a slightly higher chance for success; children held in the left arm, nearest the heart would be quieted/soothed by the mother's heartbeat vs. a child held in the right arm would tend to be fussier and thus the mother would be less successful at bringing down 'food'. Humans are the only 'handed' mammal. All other mammals tend towards 50/50 left vs right handed.

What I find interesting is that the people who quote from the bible to condemn homosexuality do not bother to read what else is on the same page - all the things in and around the quoted text are 'equally bad'. Bible quoters generally pick and choose what they condemn.

Fact: there is more proof that Jesus existed than Alexander the Great - yet people believe in Alexander more.

Actually there is no proof that jesus christ was a historical figure. The only stories we have about him were written 50 or more years after his death. Only one of 'magic' 4 writers of the gospels actually met him.

Some of the stories from the new testament do not match historical events. Very specifically, the whole slaughter of all new born male children by king Herod. Herod's life was pretty well documented; he was an all-around nasty person who eventually started a rebellion against the Roman Empire and died suddenly (of what some say was congestive heart failure, or something - the symptoms up to his death are pretty well documented also). No one liked him, everyone wrote about all the really nasty things he did but no one mentions him killing all the male children under the age of 2. That would have been really big news but is nowhere to be found in the historical record. In fact there is no (zero, none, nada) mention of jc in any historical document (other than the new testament).

Back to the actual thread - there is no need to find proof of a belief, in fact reason and faith are yin and yang - they may circle each other but it is not really necessary that one offer support or proof of the other. I would go so …

If you remember that, originally, 'PC' was used only to refer to IBM personal computers - all other Microsoft-based machines were called 'clones'.

VIC20, Amiga, Apple, Commodore, and a bunch of others were all 'other'.

Kreayshawn beats

I love Friday the 13th - I get everyone's good luck.

Today was the end of my first full week of work in about 2 months - been sick with one thing or another at least a couple hours every week for almost 14 weeks.

I am still trying to recover, sigh!

beef shank steak - man it was good - I love eating gristle and tendon when cook right. Then I had a bourbon and coke.

The good life.

Henry Ford

unfortunately, he was an anti-semite who even published a newspaper for 8 years that would rant on and on about the 'Jewish' conspiracy.

And yet, he was about the only industrialist who hired blacks and was never accused of discriminating against Jews. The paper also published articles that specifically condemned pograms and violence against Jews and refused to contribute money to the Nazis but his is the only American name mentioned in Mein Kampf - Hitler revered Ford.

A complex man who had who had his head in the skies but had feet of clay.

If you can remember using goto <line #> statements

It is the 'fog of war' thing - that room was so damned tensed up that when the deed was done, the folks came out babbling. Reporters heard the babbling and babbled their own shite. Calmer heads prevailed but there was so much babble it was like white noise and people heard what they wanted to hear.

Listen to babble going around now - the torture king says he was killed so we couldn't torture info out of him; the 'deathers' say he was not killed or was killed a long time ago; the apologists say that the president didn't do anything.

Many of these are splinter groups that had disagreements over strategy, tactics or religious minutiae. You can see similar splintering within the Palestinian movement, the Irish Republicans, and even here in the US within the militia movements.

Then there is the franchising which can be seen in the US militias and in terrorists worldwide. Osama was sort of the 'Dread Pirate Roberts' of the terrorists.

You can't nuke them all so give up on that idea.

Once you get bored with being a 'birther' do you take up being a 'deather'? pretty sad.

Henrieta Lacks, though dead, is immortal and lives on (so to speak). Before she died at age 31 the doctors at Johns Hopkins took a cell sample from her cervical cancer. These cells were so successful at living in petri dishes that almost every cancer research in the world use clones of the HeLa cells. If all the HeLa cells in the world were gathered in one place, they estimate it would weigh approximately 600 metric tons. These cells are so well adapted to living in the lab that very rigorous protocols have to be used because if the HeLa cells infect other cell lines, they usually completely take over the cell line.

Michael Moore tweets:

Beloved character actor Osama bin Laden, star of TV's "Fox News", dies age 54

Heh,heh -

You don't know what "Cyanide and Happiness" is. :)

You know you are old when you don't get it.

Heh,heh

Here is a chart - only goes to 35 though

This just in - they found Osama's body

Ding
Dong
the witch is dead

I feel Immortal by Tarja Turunen

Thank you - I found my new love

Strange visuals/new media

>> except those agencies specifically mandated in the Constitution

If you're going to declare yourself dictator and put all the bills that have been passed by Congress and all the decisions of the Supreme Court through the paper shredder, why bother worrying about what's mandated in the Constitution? Or is this one of those "In order to save the true Constitution, we'll have to ignore it for a while till we get it back on track" benevolent dictator, then voluntarily step down type of things? It would be a refreshing campaign platform, I'll give you that. Hell, I might just vote for you.

Sound like you are advocating slavery and other good, propertarian values like no vote for women, - and so on.

Clinton used to be the 2nd worst (after Carter), but now with Obama he's climbed to 3rd worst...

Such charts are only as good as the people making them. Get the right person (or rather, the leftist person) and you get a chart showing Obama is the best ever and Reagan the worst.

You are such a twit - you just never give up do you.

King Dutugamanu is my hero.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutthagamani_of_Sri_Lanka

Due north of Sri Lanka (on the other side of India) and about 2,000 years later in Moghulistan lived the first Moghul emperor Babur who wrote a book The Baburnama which is the first autobiography in Islamic culture. The book is engrossing and surprisingly readable and details people, places, flora and fauna of the time. He ended up invading India from Kabul and founding an empire that his descendents ruled for about 3 centuries. The 5th emperor after Babur was Shah Jahan who is the emperor who built the Taj Mahal as a tomb for his wife who had 14 children. Shah Jahan had his own book The Shah Jahan Nama

The book ends mid-sentence.

It gives an interesting perspective on how things in that area are the way they are today.

Aryabhata- the great Indian mathematician is also my historical hero.

Reminded me of Srinivasa Ramanujan - it has been years since I thought of him. He died too young.

It gives me an excuse to sit in a coffee shop and read for hours

I miss picking up the phone and asking the operator to connect me to <insert friend's name here>. I often knew who the operator was.

I miss dialing 'information' and asking the operator:which poker hand is higher or
How do I cook such and such?

........historical hero.........

It depend on mainly culture & the person knowledge about him or her....
So can we make one hero for all universe?
We can't,can we?

Do you know why i say like that..i don't know some of heros mention above this...
So how i can tell my hero better than other...
I can mention who is my hero....But i don't know whose want it ??.....

That why I say Can we make one hero for universe.....

Its only an Idea......
:idea:

Just to clarify my purpose in starting this thread - I am not looking for 'a historical hero', I am looking for your historical hero. I am an American citizen with a western point of view; I know that every culture has its heroes, I am looking for pointers to people I have never heard of or not heard enough about. Looking back at mythical heroes like Nimrod, Gilgamesh, Hercules, Joan of Arc, Buddha, et c. - I imagine that they were real people who inspired stories that entered the realm of legend.

Hot water + spun honey and lemon - I have a sore throat and need to baby it. Later in the evening will add bourbon to the mix.

When you start to go on about 'the kids today...'

When I was growing up we played a game called 'cougar' - it was similar to hide and seek. One person was the cougar and would get a 100 count head start then the rest of would go looking. The game always started after sundown and would last for the 2 hours of twilight (and often into the dark) during high summer. Our twist was that we went hunting the cougar with lassoes. The first person the cougar touched was the next cougar so the first person to lasso the cougar would often be the next one cuz the cougar would climb the rope. The trick was for at least 2 people to lasso the cougar together. Think about it! the hunters were being hunted - even though being the cougar was really fun, no one wanted to be tagged first.

If you have not guessed, I grew up in Montana in the 1950s. I have never heard of anyone else playing this game so it may be a game invented locally (Livingston, MT). By the 1980s, I was pretty sure that kids were moribund, tv-addicted blobs that never went outside - now I find the 80s kids think that of the current crop of kids.

Life was always better when we were kids.

Just found the Kelly Family

Your calculator has more computing power than the computers that put a man on the moon (and got him back safely).

Acetaminophen is so toxic that taking 8 tablets in a day (2 tablets 4 times a day or 4 grams) can cause liver damage. The additional problem is that most opiate medication like percocet and vicodin along with many over the counter cough and cold medication contain half a gram of Acetaminophen.

I remember sitting in a coffee shop in Tucson AZ talking with someone spoke with the same sincerity and absolute certainty about his theories so I posited 'falsifiability' and he said that his idea was TRUE and therefore could not be proven wrong (something about earthquakes, volcanoes and China) - I could only look him dead in the eye and say "you are a crank". He sputtered and walked away.

Immulett - you are a crank. There is not even a consistent thread to your exposition that can be stated in such a way as to be tested.

If there is an idea or a theory in there, slow down and explain it. What do Gamma rays have to do with Dark Matter? How do you surpass cancer (did you mean suppress)? What is a 'only third dimension' body? Are you familiar with 'string theory'? Do you understand the 11 dimensionality strings and how 8 are tightly constrained and 3 unbound? Can you contain the context? The context is never the same.

Yes - I used it for a while then I discovered the 'Pale Moon' version of FireFox. I may go back because I forget why I gave it up.

The first clue is that letter from AARP - it is all downhill from there.

The high G on a bassoon is nearly indistinguishable from the low G on a flute - there is a moment in Ravel's Bolero where the switch takes place, can you hear/find it?

Global warming rules. Soon later, all the icebergs will melt due to the heat and the whole earth will be covered in water. Atlantis 2, think about it may happened soon

Well, I did bring this up a while back. Essentially most of the water in the northern hemisphere is stored in/on the Greenland glaciers and so the melt will affect the north Atlantic first and the Eastern seaboard of North America the most (due to Coriolis) - it will take more than 50 years to get to the Pacific.

A quick look at the Thermohaline circulation of the Atlantic will explain why the melt stays in the Atlantic (see image) - the red is warmer, surface water currents and the blue is deep-water, cold currents. Notice that the only access to the Pacific is through the Bering Straight, explaining why there are no icebergs in the Pacific. The odd currents in the southern hemisphere will slow the movement of Antarctic melt into the Pacific.

What is that link to? My computer (Windows 7) doesn't know what it is.

Sorry, I posted the direct link to image here is wiki-location
. Actually Earth will be enveloped when Sol goes red giant since Earth's orbit will be approximately the surface of the sun.

Pick up a copy of SpinRite (I keep recommending this software but I do not get anything for my recommendation) <...>. In some cases SpinRite can map out bad sectors and even recover data from those bad sectors.

This is what I was going to recommend when I saw the thread - once you have SpinRite, you will find uses for it.

Scrum seems like a pretty narrow field - better you should hit up wikipedia and see what they say about scrum and work from that

Mine has to be 2001 Space Odyssey - monkey-boy smashing skull, free-fall stewardess, "I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.", "my god it is full of stars" sigh. I must have seen it 200 times at least 50 high on acid and most of the others high on pot - I do not really remember much of the 1970s