Tianya: the Chinese password hack that just keeps on giving

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Back in December 2011, reports were circulating regarding a data breach at one of the big Chinese social networking sites, Tianya.cn that suggested the login credentials of some 40 million users were potentially exposed. Clear text usernames and password combinations were stolen by hackers during the breach, although a Tianya spokesperson at the time said that only those users who registered before November 2009 would have had clear text logins as after that the service had implemented encryption (!) - quite why the existing membership data could not have been encrypted at this point is, frankly, beyond me. Word on the webvine at the time was that unencrypted data was not secured or deleted when the servers and systems were upgraded, and the Tianya administrators had to shoulder that failure. While the 40 million figure bandied around at the time seemed huge, later reporting suggested it wasn't that bad; 'only' 4 million users ended up having their usernames and passwords published online by the hackers for everyone to see.

Fast forward to now, and the Tianya story just keeps on giving. Steve Thomas, the co-founder of PwnedList, was interviewed recently and reckons that his outfit has managed "to find over 28 million credentials, including plaintext passwords" from that breach in 2011. The data was, according to Thomas, provided by a Chinese hacker who pointed PwnedList at a 'leak share' site including the Tianya dataset.

If you are concerned that your logins may have been compromised, you can run a quick (and free) check for mentions of your email address in the PwnedList database here. Thomas has promised a new feature coming soon that will enable searching of the breach database by username and Twitter nickname as well as email, and a new database of phishing attack victims for good measure.

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This thread highlights a common, ongoing problem: old plaintext credential dumps get re‑packaged and re‑published, then resurface in new leak collections long after the original incident. correctly called attention to the resurfacing; such collections are why operators and researchers treat large historical Chinese dumps with extra caution when trying to verify provenance. (troyhunt.com)

’s quick test is a useful sanity check: a trustworthy breach‑lookup will explain its sources and won’t return “hits” for obviously fabricated addresses. Services that return positives for dummy emails or give no provenance are unreliable and should be cross‑checked against established indexes that publish methodology and verification status. Have I Been Pwned is one such resource that documents how it classifies and publishes breaches. (consumerreports.org)

Practical mitigation guidance (concise):

  • Affected users: change any passwords that were reused on other sites; enable multi‑factor authentication (MFA); adopt a password manager so each account has a unique secret. These steps materially reduce harm from credential‑replay and credential‑stuffing attacks. (owasp.org)
  • Site owners/operators: never store plaintext passwords; migrate to strong, adaptive KDFs (Argon2/bcrypt) with per‑account salts, rotate secrets, and securely delete legacy backups instead of leaving them in place. When a legacy plaintext exposure is discovered, force a reset and treat the incident as a live breach (notify users, rotate creds, tighten logging). (jpcertcc.github.io)

Summary note tied to the thread: skepticism about third‑party leak searchers is warranted; verification matters. While law‑enforcement or regulators may investigate large incidents, immediate defensive steps — unique passwords, MFA, password managers, and vendor pressure to stop storing plaintext — are the concrete protections that limit damage today.

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Fast forward to now, and the Tianya story just keeps on giving. Steve Thomas, the co-founder of PwnedList, was interviewed recently and reckons that his outfit has managed "to find over 28 million credentials, including plaintext passwords" from that breach in 2011. The data was, according to Thomas, provided by a Chinese hacker who pointed PwnedList at a 'leak share' site including the Tianya dataset.

I hardly ever hear this company at all til now. That is very serious that is alot of members info being post like that. If Tianya is not going to fixed that issue soon then most likely Big Brother have to step in and punish Tianya and of course find the hacker which Big Brother can do because they have the power to do that.

Begginnerdev 256 Junior Poster

I am not so sure about the legitimacy of the email lookup @ pwndlist.

After typing:

a@a.a
b@b.b
c@c.c

All of the address returned N occurrences since July, 2011
All of the address had been compromised 4 months ago.

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