French give three strikes ultimatum to P2P pirates

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A proposal from the could hit online music and movie piracy very hard with a very big stick if it goes ahead. In addition to the existing law, introduced only last year, which made unauthorised file-sharing a criminal offence carrying a 30,000 Euro fine and up to six months in prison, the new proposals seek to kick pirates off the Internet altogether.

Along with other measures such as the watermarking of digital content, the Ministry of Culture plans include the controversial concepts of monitoring and tracking the movement of those watermarked files and the people who move them. A registry would be created to log those users accused of piracy by the copyright holders, and following official investigation a three strikes and you are out system will issues two warnings and finally forced termination of the ISP contract.

Unsurprisingly, the government plans have been warmly welcomed by the French media industry which is keen to implement the watermarking system. I understand that agreements have already been signed with TV channels, film makers and ISPs to this effect. For its part, the French government will set up a new agency to monitor Internet traffic and deal with the complaints process. French president Nicolas Sarkozy said of the deal "We run the risk of witnessing a genuine destruction of culture" adding "The Internet must not become a high-tech Far West, a lawless zone where outlaws can pillage works with abandon or, worse, trade in them in total impunity.

Although there has been some expected backlash from consumer rights groups which suggest a digital divide will be created at exactly the same time as the government is putting more citizen services online, it seems doubtful that any determined pirate would be unable to route around the ISP blacklist. Apart from anything else, there is always the Internet café approach to connectivity after all. What is of more concern, of course, is the potential conflict within French law. In particular the constitutional protection of innocence until proved guilty, when that decision will rest with a bureaucratic government department rather than a court of law. One open source computing pressure group in France has even gone so far as to suggest the proposals will, in effect, create a private Internet police force.

That, perhaps, is an accusation too far considering that it will be an independent authority supervised by a judge that will decide if users lose their Internet access...

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This thread raises the core tensions of a proposal that links content watermarking with an administrative "three‑strikes" path to ISP disconnection. summarized the policy intent and institutional shift; that shift — moving factfinding and sanctioning toward an administrative body rather than a court — is precisely the point that triggers serious procedural and civil‑rights concerns in any rule that cuts access to an essential service.

On the technical side, watermarking and network monitoring are tools with limits. Forensic watermarks can tie a distributed master copy to an account when the mark is present, but many copies shared on peer‑to‑peer networks are user rips or captures that carry no such mark — a point made by . Traffic analysis or DPI at the ISP level can spot P2P patterns, but encryption, legitimate uses of those protocols, and the risk of misattribution make airtight proof difficult. The combination of imperfect detection and administrative sanctions raises a high risk of false positives and collateral harm.

Important safeguards that any credible enforcement scheme should include are clear evidentiary standards, a robust independent appeals process (judicial review available), strict limits on what data is collected and retained, and transparent reporting about how complaints are verified. Procedural transparency and technical auditability are essential to prevent wrongful disconnections and to protect privacy.

Beyond enforcement mechanics, the larger policy debate matters: technical crackdowns alone rarely eliminate unauthorized sharing. Long‑term solutions tend to mix enforceable rights with accessible legal services, modern distribution models, and consumer protections to avoid creating a digital divide where connectivity becomes conditional on a private administrative finding.

lasher511 185 Veteran Poster

I take it that this is just a french sceme at the moment?

Really there isn't any real way to stop P2P traffic without shutting out the legitimate uses for it as well. They also seem to have forgotten that the majority of digital content shared Via P2P isn't watermarked but is either ripped directly from a DVD or a TV.

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