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Location: Content Mastery
OS: Win98 SE

She can cannot log onto the network, but she can get on the Internet that is filtered through the network.

She tries to put in her password, and it says that the domain will not validate her PW because it is invalid. So, she can not check her e-mail or log onto the teacher's folders.

Does this make sence?

Ideas?

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When a machine can reach the Internet but fails domain logon, the problem is rarely the physical network. Three things to check first are name resolution (DNS), whether the client and DC agree on authentication protocols, and whether the client has the right Windows‑9x support to talk to Active Directory–style servers.

From the client side verify DNS and domain reachability. On Win9x use winipcfg (or ipconfig /all on later clients) and confirm the DNS server is the internal domain DNS, not an external resolver. Try ping <DCname> and net view \\<DCname> to confirm the domain controller is discoverable. If SRV/name lookups fail, fix DNS before chasing credentials.

Authentication mismatches are common after a server upgrade or policy change. Server-side Group Policy can require NTLMv2 or disable older LAN Manager responses; older 9x clients may not support those settings. Check the DC Security event logs for failed logon entries and failure codes — they usually indicate whether the client sent an unsupported auth type or whether the account is locked/expired. As suggested, testing the same account from another workstation (and a different account from the problem machine) isolates user vs. machine faults.

For multiple affected 9x machines, test one client fully before large changes. If a server policy must stay strict, plan a controlled client update or imaging rollout; if policy can be relaxed temporarily, use that for troubleshooting. Inspect DC logs, confirm time/date sync, and keep a rollback plan before mass changes, as pointed out.

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It does if the authentication mechanism for the Internet filter is different from the network domain. Windows passwords are case sensitive, perhaps the Internet filter's mechanism is not. In the vast majority of these cases that I have seen, the password or username being sent to the domain, really was wrong or someone entered the users name or password incorrectly into the domain. Question to ask: Has she ever been able to login to the domain? Either way, just having the password reset to what she thinks it should be, will generally fix it.

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Hmm... well, I have a feeling that it is her computer.
She has been able to log onto the domain all last year. PLUS the fact that I can log in as her on another computer.

I guess that would be a totally different pony then, huh?

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Nevermind. I just got word from the technology staff that there is something wrong with the 2003 Server that they put in that is not letting some of the 98s log on.

Any ideas on that?

Member Avatar for bentkey

Not without more information. Sorry. If they introduced a new server, there are just too many possibilities. You might just try to see if you can log on from her computer with your username/password. If you can, then they have messed up her username/password somehow.

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I just got done talking to the Techs again, and they told me that the only way to fix this, is to upgrade all the computers to Win2K.

ARE THEY NUTS?! That means that I have at least 30 computers in one week that I need to do, and I don't have a frickin cloner.

Eh, oh well, I'm sure that they will let me borrow theirs.

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Meh. Installing Win2k on 30 computers in one week is no big deal. If you have all of the appropriate Product Keys and everything, you could format all of the hard drives and copy the i386 folder off of the Windows 2000 CD to each system's hard drive. Then, you could install from there. Get one install cooking, move to the other, get it going, move to the other, wash, rinse. repeat. You could get a good bunch of them running in one day going that route. A cloner would probably take just as long, anyways...

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Ok... Found out a way to fix it all. They made a disk that has DS Client on it. Run that program, and the 98s can log in. THanx for all the help!

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