Posts by GrimJack

Computer models cannot predict what going to happen this afternoon, how can they predict what going to happen in 100 years.
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I don't know where you got this idea but it is bull pucky. The current weather models can arrive at today's weather given data from the past - this is how the models are tested. Take a look here for a little more info on weather modeling.

I'm not sarcastic. What I am is better informed than you (and everyone else who gets their data only from Greenpeace and Al Gore).

JW- you got a cite for the 'ice packs at the poles are growing' theory? You make these really inane statements about how much you know but you haven't shown us where you get your information. You heard about the North West Passage? Note the disappearance of sea ice

Two things.

The Al Gore CO2 alarmists don't know everything. Consider this report on unexpected carbon uptake in desert areas

The article was published June 13, 2008; no one but you would expect Al Gore to know something that hadn't been discovered yet. And, it sure does not even come close to balancing the effect of ocean warming on the amount of CO2 in solution (nota bene, the warmer the water, the less CO2 the oceans will hold). For the science oriented in the group, open 2 bottles of cold Coke and put one in the fridge and leave one in the sun - test hourly.

Will we run out of fossil fuels, in our lifetimes or our children's? The amount of oil discussed is generally in terms of "proven reserves", which means that which has been found and somehow measured.

The oil companies keep getting their heinnies spanked for overestimating their 'proven' reserves, often by 50%.

What about that which hasn't been discovered or exploited yet? And further, there are theories that contradict the standard origin of oil as remnants of the dinosaurs (which would be a finite resource) - that hydrocarbon fuels are originating from deep in the earth - so how much might there be over time?

I am surprised that someone else has heard about the 'oil is produced by pressure, water and limestone' theory. I actually like that theory but that is beside the point because the theory does not explain why oil …

I am sure that Georgia's huge agriculture and forestry consumes more corbondioxide than is produced in the state. Something these scientifically uneducated judges and environmental whiners should consider.

Sorry, Bums, but I don't understand your point - are you saying that all the CO2 produced by the agri-business and the logging of the forests overwhelms the CO2 produced by the coal fired plants? Are you suggesting that the mining industry dumping tailings in the valleys and hollows is a good thing? What leads you to believe the judge is scientifically uneducated? Did you read the judge's opinion? Can you point to what is non-scientific in the judge's opinion?

Yes, I am an environmental whiner and I will match any scientific point you want to bring to the discussion.

Seattle is the place for me - few bugs, seldom snows, seldom gets above 90 degs.

I enjoyed living in Tucson but too hot and, during July, August, September, too humid.

I love visiting Paris!

Anyone here from Australia? Are you holding on tightly?

We're all going to be fitted with satnav tracking chips pretty soon so law enforcement can always know where everyone is.
Officially it will be "for our own good" so they can find us if we're kidnapped or otherwise in trouble.
In reality of course it will be so they can easily find dissenters and groups of malcontents.

JW - did you ever see the 1960s movie The President's Analyst? Part of the sub-plot was TPC (The Phone Company) and its desire to implant a phone in the heads of babies when they are born and giving them a permanent phone #. It is a comedy starring my favorite actor Jame Coburn (I have a man-crush on him - he just moves soooo cool). The love scene in the wheat field is a hoot!

"They" (the ubiquitous 'them') have already made Americans so paranoid that all school children are fingerprinted, DNA-printed, and blood-sampled so that, er -- so that.... well, so that if, in the unlikely event of something terrible happening --

Oops! is the this the paranoid rant thread or did I enter the wrong one?

thats right and it will be trully amazing.the only sad part is in order to get it work theyll have to continually test it on human beings. hope we not gonna get too much failures

The first testing of brain stimulation started in 1874; in 1638 Rene Descartes wrote that a person would not know if an evil demon had trapped his mind in a black box and was controlling all inputs and outputs; in 1976, Rhesus monkeys were studied using implanted electrodes; brain pacemakers have been in use since 1997 ease symptoms of such diseases as epilepsy, Parkinson's, and so on.

Look here for more info; it is not like they just stuck an electrode in a brain and turned on the juice to see what would happen.

yip heard of that,someone actually died cos of this (the risk is still there). but they still working on it.

You got a cite? Did you even look? Or was this a FOAF? (friend of a friend who never lies)

You're inspired by a bad pun? OOF! You must enjoy Family Circus cartoons.

Some fish poachers started a cascade of unintended consequences which ended with some Kamchatka bears -- they approximate Grizzlies and well, read the story

If you use FireFox, you can try the add-on Cluztr - this seems to do all that you want and is free!

You poor, benighted Repubes - you can't let go of Clinton -- either it is his fault, or what we do is okay, Clinton did it.

Get a life and face your problems - you can't go through life blaming other people for your failures.

Let me subscribe us all to the new magazine called Modern Jackass - The magazine for the person who knows just a little bit and thinks s/he can work out the rest.

a person that talks expertly about something he/she actually knows nothing about

(Defined by the NPR show This American Life, the intro is only 4.5 minutes and is pretty good)
Usually occurs in a conversation when you know a little about a subject and when asked to expand upon it, you extrapolate completely unrelated nonsense.

IBM -- It's Better Manually

HAL -- one step ahead

The pope can be considered partly responsible for the spread of aids in the 3rd world.

Wrong forum - try the 'posting games' forum

I found it humerous too -- Obama may turn out to be as teflon coated as Reagan. McCain just can not even dream of getting the appeal that Obama has.

Actually, one begins to wonder why everyone is covering up for McCain - Katie Couric actually cut McCain's screwing up the Iraq timeline and inserted something he said earlier in the interview(see the split screen here). He mistakes Sunnis for Shia, thinks Iraq borders Afghanistan, can't seem to get the Iraq war timeline correct, mixed Somalia and Sudan -- sometimes they don't seem so much like gaffes but like McCain is just clueless.

Ah, well - it is going to be a long campaign and a battle of 'the gaffes' with maybe a 'macaca' moment.

Closed this one and followed up in that one.

Thanks, AD

The way I produced this error "This forum requires that you wait 5 seconds between searches. Please try again in 101 seconds." was to do a search for all unanswered threads, then all of today's posts, then all posts since I last visit - poof, I get the error. Also, I get the error when I search for all unanswered threads, go in to answer it then go back to my original list, then go to the next page of the list which fails then I do the search again and get the error messaga

I just received this message:

This forum requires that you wait 5 seconds between searches. Please try again in 42 seconds.

; if I am supposed to wait 5 seconds, why force me to wait 42 seconds (unless it is punishment for being to quick to click).

Mayhave already been done - but too long a list to check....

1. What is another word for Thesaurus ?

classed catalogue of words

and
3. What did the guy who invented the drawing board go back to - when the first version was wrong

sand box? pot of clay?

Phil

GrimJack

Are all the people who have contributed to this thread sane enough for another one? ;-)

There are so many questions in that question but sure, it might be a good time to start again.

Worked for me - I liked the rhythms, the vocals reminded me of Noh.

But the arguments have to be valid. Affirming the consequent is an invalid argument.

Most of the people making these claims are social or environmental scientists. They do not follow the rigor that physical scientists use.

Social and environmental scientists usually can't perform experiments, because they will destroy the only sample they have if they try any experimentation. So they observe and record data, and make conjectures.

I think you don't have a good grasp on what science is and how science works - you seem to be implying that astronomers, cosmologists, astrophysicist, etc are not scientists or can not do good science.

You lost me bro. Run to the store and buy a cake.

1) When you are stoned enough to want choco cake RIGHT NOW! driving might not be the best idea; 2) it's late at night and you just don't want to go out into (stormy,snowy,rainy,miserable) night. 3) you want to entertain your kids, 4) you don't particularly like your guests and so, feed them what comes out of microwave.

Dave, if all you are going to do is post links, you just suck all the joy out of disputation. Look, if you are familiar with Monty Python, you will understand when I say Moncton is just an upper class twit. who has no sense of propriety. Look here and here to clear up any confusion wrt Moncton's letter to the APS - keep in mind it was just a letter to a journal, not an actual peer reviewed article

Or maybe not!?

Are you hungering for some chocolate cake but don't want to do all that work or eat all that cake? Here is a recipe for a 5 minute cake that is just the right amount - would use a small bowl in place of the mug but still....

I was just turned on to a website that tracks a lot of MP3 blogs - thousands of them. If you are looking for something new or want to follow something you know or just dl a couple of mp3 files - check out TheHypeMachine. It has some standard pages like 'most popular' 'current' and 'spy'; you can create your own account and create your own lists of what you want them to track for you.

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That growth on his neck, eww - it wasn't there the first few times he ran for president. What is it? Alien parasite? remote control device?

Oh, Dave - sorry, I actually believed your previous statements that you are just trying to make sure the other side makes a comment. AGW is not my religion - sorry to disappoint you, but like I stated in my previous post, I will look at anyone's science and if it changes my mind, I will let you know. But I will do my own research and make up my own mind.

I went to James A. Peden's site - dang, the first thing he does (well, he waits until the 3rd paragraph) is compare AGW to Nazi's

Historians ponder how the entire nation of Germany could possibly have goose-stepped into place in such a short time, and we have similar unrest

then dismisses it all with

Have we become a nation of overnight loonies?

. It has almost become a guarantee - as soon as someone introduces Nazis into an argument, all hope is lost (and he starts with it, sigh!).

Then, in true 'well, duh!' superiority, it is stated that CO2 is a normal part of the atmosphere and plants need it so more of it will only help plants. Follow this with "carbon dioxide is not a greenhouse gas. anyway". Plants need water but no one suggests that floods are good for plants.

"The atmospheric concentrations of CO2 and CH4 have increased by 31% and 149% respectively since the beginning of the industrial revolution in the mid-1700s. These levels are considerably higher …

Bob Dole said, upon having seen former Presidents Carter, Ford, and Nixon, referred to them as “See No Evil, Hear No Evil and Evil.

farooqaaa, The humor lies in the speed - he gets off work at 17:00 and gets home by 13:30, that is fast; but you have to understand, in New jersey - it is possible to have a couple of no-show jobs, this is usually the kind of thing Toni Soprano does for one of his soldiers on the east coast; whereas, in Chicago - it is usually a ward captain who hands out this sort of thing

Nice find!

Really cool find - I grew up lying on the floor listening to old radio serials, sigh - I will have to get a couple of those to relive my youth.

Does anyone still listen to the radio?

Yes! DW and I have our radios tuned to KUOW; we wake up and go to sleep listening to NPR,MPR, and Pacifica stations. When we leave the house, we both have a couple of mp3 players. We both have a fixation with German industrial rock (Rammstien, Einstuerzende Neubauten, Kraftwerk)- she also listens to a lot of mashups while I go for various forms of ambient and some of the TRUE classics - Liszt, Chopin, etc.

Hey - I remember that the Seattle Times carried his comic strip, many years ago - my favorite character in the strip was the 'gun-flinger'

That post was for fun. If you want me to add to the discussion, I'll submit this.

Dave, I know you are not particularly vested in much of what you post, and I honestly enjoy the research you force me to do. I will take each of David Evans point by point:

1. The greenhouse signature is missing. We have been looking and measuring for years, and cannot find it.

This couldn't be more wrong. Here are some of the signatures he says are missing. Granted this is from a site that states "Climate Science from Climate Scientists" so you might consider them 'differently' focused than someone who writes for "The Australian" which has been a climate change denier for the last decade.

2 There is no evidence to support the idea that carbon emissions cause significant global warming. None.

This is pure denial - as if he denies it often enough it will become true see:

The blue bands show temperature changes modelled using only natural forcings, while the red bands include anthropogenic forcings as well. The black line shows observations. Clearly, we must include anthropogenic forcings if we want to match the observations. The 2nd picture is just pure joy to look at and though it supports my point I don't want add too much more 'science' to this post -- I could also 'nitpick' rest of his points but why bother, the pattern continues.

Now this post is INTERESTING and thought-provoking - I knew you had it in you.

Give me a couple hours for research before I accept this guy's word on what he did for a living and what other researchers say on the same topic.

Will Homeland Security put Barack Obama on the passenger terrorist list because he visited Afghanistan?

Don't forget his middle name is Hussein - he should get on the list twice!

If you had a lever long enough, could you really move the world?

Nah! you need a fulcrum for a lever to work -- hmm, maybe you could use the moon as the .... Nope, the moon would just move out of the way.

Hey! If you had a lever 1 light year long and you pushed on one end - how long would it take the other end to move?

Why do people feel that organic vegetables, fertilized with animal dung, are so much healthier?

Why do people who eat vegetables fertilized with heavy metals are as healthy as animal dung??

600 companies from 44 different states sent 270 million pounds of toxic waste to farms and fertilizer companies across the country. The steel industry provided 30% of this waste. Used for its high levels of zinc, which is an essential nutrient for plant growth, steel industry wastes can include lead, arsenic, cadmium, chromium, nickel and dioxin, among other toxic substances. (1)

Heh, heh, Ene - I was suckered too. But then again, you notice that this revival did not even add to the discussion; just some BS from out of the blue. Next, Dave will post the 3 typos in AG's book that prove it is all lies. Sigh! He's got nothing.

Move along, nothing to see here.

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The zebra is considered black (pigmented) with white (unpigmented) stripes.

A Jew, a Christian, and Barak Obama were on a boat in the ocean - Barak says "Hey, this joke isn't going to work -- there's no Muslim"

All the flowers of tomorrow are in the seeds of today.

Great one... I really love that.

So are all the weeds
but then weeds are just plants out of their element.

Nothing in that video convinces me of anything.

The problem lies between keyboard and chair

ZZ - he said just about the same thing the other day - I sometimes wonder if he might not have one those pull-things on his back - pull it out, release and a string of pseudo-random phrases come out.

AD - What is working for W-M like? - I may have to look there myself.

Z - good poll, (woulda,shoulda,coulda - more choices, multiple choices??)

I chose 2 days a week that I NEVER drive; I bus to work (it adds 3 hours to my work day); we started a garden (just tomatoes, broccoli, and Swiss chard - we got 'em for free); I make my own sparkling water - I can go through a case of Taking Rain in a week, then when you add in the hidden costs like fuel and so on.... - using CO2 and tap water; I try to turn off at least one of my computers; and so on..