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SEO-Guy is doing a great job getting links to DaniWeb out there. My question now is how long before Google acknowledges this? Usually my PR fluctuates near the 1st of the month. Do I have to wait until July before I receive any benefit?

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This thread is a useful snapshot from June 2004 when the visible Toolbar PageRank was a go-to metric. Over the next decade the public PageRank number became increasingly unreliable and Google eventually stopped publishing it — the toolbar display was turned off in mid‑April 2016. (Search Engine Land). (searchengineland.com)

Why that matters: the public PR you could see in a toolbar was only a lagging, coarse snapshot and Google stopped updating it regularly after about 2013; engineers (via Matt Cutts and others) said the update pipeline was no longer a priority. Google still uses link signals internally, but you should not treat the old 0–10 toolbar number as a timely indicator. (Search Engine Roundtable). (seroundtable.com)

Practical advice for monitoring progress today (and for anyone looking back at this thread): stop waiting for a toolbar number and start watching measurable signals you control — Google Search Console for clicks, impressions and average position, site indexing and errors; Google Analytics for organic traffic; and a reliable rank tracker or backlink index (Moz/Ahrefs/Majestic) for link trends. Use Search Console as your primary Google-sourced performance feed. (Google Search Central / Search Console). (search.google.com)

To tie this back here: , the instinct to watch SERPs (not just a toolbar number) was sound; and were right that visible PR updates were irregular; and s caution that PR does not equal top rankings still holds. If has been building links, the fastest confirmation is trending SERP positions and Search Console data rather than waiting for an external PR snapshot.

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You could see positive upward movement in the SERPS long before you see it reflected on either the toolbar's PR or in the backlinks that Google shows for your site. So keep an eye out for progress in the serps for your keywords. The next PR/backlink update is probably anywhere from 3-5 weeks away.

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OK, cool, thanks. Yes, I was figuring it would be about 4 weeks away because it seems that they update near the beginning of each month.

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PR is only good to leverage your site with link swappers. It really has nothing to do with real web page optimization. I have a PR7, but I can't even crack the 1st 2 pages of SERPs for [Arizona Web Design] (yet). Even though I am the highest ranked PR site of my competition beating me in the SERPs, I still am far behind some of them.

Did you leverage dev work for SEO-Guy's services? I would love for somebody to jump in and do my link building for me... it is such a pain in the arse.

-added- google usually updates PR every month-ish.

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Oh btw Dani, your question about PR is that really there is no difinitive answer lol GEE seo guy that helps. But seriously we have seen non static update regiments sometimes an update will occur and then 2.5 weeks later BOOM another one. Sometimes we get stuck waiting circa 35 days.

Just to keep it simple I usually spit out once every 28-32 days but noone can really answer your question "correctly" we can only show historical data

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