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Hi
What does you think about CoffeeCup Software for web design, anyone.
I wants to start designing websites.

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This thread dates to August 22, 2014. asked whether CoffeeCup is a good place to start; shared useful experience from hand-coding to visual tools. The notes below summarize the practical tradeoffs and give a short, modern checklist that builds on those replies.

CoffeeCup today ships both a visual Site Designer and a code-first HTML Editor, which can speed prototyping and let you inspect the generated markup. Use the visual tool as a learning bridge: prototype layouts quickly, then open the same pages in the code view to study and clean the markup, check semantics and ARIA where needed, and avoid relying on fixed, pixel-only techniques. (coffeecup.com)

A sustainable learning path is: semantic HTML first, then CSS fundamentals (box model), then modern layout (Flexbox and Grid) and media queries, with basic JavaScript afterwards. MDN’s Learn area and its responsive design guide give up-to-date, hands-on explanations and examples to follow as skills grow. (developer.mozilla.org)

Quick checklist and workflow to apply immediately:

  • Start from a responsive template or a small blank project.
  • Open the project in both Site Designer and a code editor so you see generated code and can edit it.
  • Ensure the responsive viewport is present, for example:
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1">
  • Test with browser DevTools’ device emulation and on real phones/tablets for critical bugs.
  • Validate markup and fix errors with the W3C validator before publishing. (developer.chrome.com)

Summary: ’s point about using a visual editor to get started is valid, but pair it with reading the generated HTML, basic CSS learning, and device testing so projects scale cleanly as you move to server-side or larger sites.

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Most drag and drop software produces pixel layouts, loks great on your desktop, looks crap on any other screen size, device resolution, pushes out of partscreen windows,

Coffee cup html can produce html5 css3 compliant code, % em rem layouts, it has a very short learning curve, and doesnt have to be fixed later to make it display on a ipad or phone
preview on any device - built in
templateable
version control
Clean code, separated layout and presentation
code completion and hints, its hard to leave out closing an element

Pretty damn good actually
I write by hand, since the 80s, now using notepad++
If I were beginning again now, probably first choice for html,
as your skills increase, the editor adjusts, only pushes when you miss something

later when you build serverside, php asp sql, its still a good choice for the html part of it

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Thank you.

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