Wonderful Apple tech support

John A 0 Tallied Votes 379 Views Share

How often is it that we hear stories from people who work as tech support about the stupid people they have to deal with? Indeed, it seems as though working as tech support could potentially be an extremely entertaining profession, provided that you have a good sense of humor. Of course, it could in some rare circumstances be the other way around. Question: do consumers find it entertaining when the tech support doesn't know what they're doing?

Okay, there's no avoiding it. My two year-old iMac has been freezing constantly, usually within the first few minutes of bootup. Fortunately, I had purchased extended AppleCare for it as well, and I decided that I might as well take advantage of it and call the dreaded tech support. Though to be truthful, I wasn't dreading it. Apple has received an extremely high phone support rating from Consumer Reports in terms of wait time, helpfulness, etc.

I dial the number. Go through a couple of menus. Wait. Music starts playing, and I switch the handset to speakerphone. (Meanwhile I'm working on compiling software on my Gentoo system.) Finally a woman answers, asks me what my problem is. Tells me that I need my OS X installation disk for some hardware tests. Crap. It's probably buried in some old boxes. I thought the disk was unnecessary, seeing that I can barely do anything on the computer before it freezes up on me. The nice lady on the other end disagrees with me. Apologize for not having the disk on hand, and thank her for her time.

After about 15 minutes of searching, I manage to locate the disk(s). Dial the number again, and listen to another 40 minutes of beautiful music. This time a man answers.

"Hello. Can I have your product serial number?"
<Give him my iMac serial number>
"Sorry, it seems as if the serial number you've given me is invalid."
<Repeat it again>
"Sorry, it's not liking it."
<Repeat it once more>
"Hello, sir. How are you doing?"
"Um, fine."
"What can I do for you today?"
"I have an issue with my iMac G5. It's been freezing constantly, usually within a minute of bootup. However, I tried booting it a few minutes ago, and now it won't even start (no video, just the white light in the front)."
"Umm.... hmmm...."
[[I]long pause[/I]]
"So this is a new issue?"
"Yes."
"Do you have Leopard installed?"
"Nope. It came installed with Panther, but I upgraded to Tiger."
"The Panther!"
"Pardon?"
"Sorry. I was just talking about Panther."
"Okay."
"Umm, okay. So you'll need your Tiger disk now."
"Are you sure? It's just an upgrade disk; most of the hardware testing programs are located on the Panther disks that came with this iMac."
"Nope. It has to be the Tiger disk."
"The other problem is, I can't insert the Tiger disk into my iMac, since it has a slot-loading optical drive. The computer has to be on to be able to accept the disk, and the fact is, it's not turning on."
"Okay. Turn off your computer, then insert the disk."
"Um, I can't! The computer won't accept the disk when it's not turned on."
"So you mean there's already a disk in the computer."
"NO. I mean the computer won't accept the disk when it's not turned on."
"Sir, are you familiar with inserting a disk into your computer?"
"YES. It's a slot-loading drive, and the computer has to be turned on for the drive to accept the disk."
"So turn on the computer, then insert the disk."
"BUT THE COMPUTER WON'T TURN ON!"
(This circular argument went on for several minutes)

Finally:
"Okay. I think at this point we've determined that this is a hardware-related issue. What you need to do is take your computer to your local Apple retail store, and they'll repair it."

I thank him for his time, and then begin searching for Apple retailers. Of course, the only problem with his recommended approach is the fact that there's only about a grand total of 4 Apple retailers in Canada, none of which are near me. After a bit of poking around, however, I discover that you simply need a certified Apple service provider. Of course, he didn't think of mentioning that to me...

Dani AI

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A short expert summary and practical next steps tied to the thread from and others.

When an iMac (especially a PowerPC-era iMac G5) freezes repeatedly and then refuses to show video, the first goal is to confirm hardware vs. software without voiding warranty. If the machine will power far enough to run diagnostics, use Apple Diagnostics / Apple Hardware Test (older Macs use AHT on the original install/restore discs or via the D/Option‑D startup methods) after disconnecting all peripherals and recording any error codes for the technician. (support.apple.com)

If the iMac will not boot at all but shows a front LED or intermittent activity, many iMac G5 models include internal diagnostic LEDs and an SMU/PMU reset that can fix power/video symptoms; those indicators and the SMU reset are documented in the iMac G5 service material. Because accessing the midplane/SMU requires removing the back cover, this step risks warranty consequences and is best done by an Apple technician or an Apple‑authorized service provider. (vdoc.pub)

For data recovery or to avoid reinstalling the OS immediately, consider Target Disk Mode (boot the target Mac holding T and connect by FireWire to a host Mac) or booting from an external optical/FireWire drive if the machine will power long enough; both are standard rescue options before opening the case. (support.apple.com)

Given the warranty/AppleCare context in this thread (see ), the practical customer workflow is: collect error/reference codes, ask Apple for the nearest Apple Authorized Service Provider (or mail‑in repair) and the case/repair ID, request escalation if the phone rep is uncertain, and decline third‑party parts that would void AppleCare unless out‑of‑warranty service is acceptable. Apple’s repair/authorized provider options and mail‑in services are listed on Apple’s repair pages. (support.apple.com)

These steps bridge the original anecdote and the usual service path: run AHT/Diagnostics and capture codes if possible, avoid DIY board work while under AppleCare, and use an AASP or Apple repair channel for SMU-level problems or power‑supply replacement.

Dani 5,664 The Queen of DaniWeb Administrator Featured Poster

Sounds like you had a fun day. I couldn't imagine not having four Apple stores 10, 20, 30, and 40 minutes away from me. Oh, the joys of New York!

John A 1,896 Vampirical Lurker Team Colleague

True, I am at many times tempted to move to a big city where there are actually real computer stores. :-)

scru 909 Posting Virtuoso Featured Poster

Haha, I didn't think that arguments like that were possible. HA!

ndnalibi 0 Newbie Poster

I had a similar experience with Apple. I called Tech support (which my company had purchased the premium package) because of a bad power supply. After several discouraging calls, we ended up taking it to an apple service provider who told me that it was the power supply, but that all apple power supplies were on back order for 2 weeks. He did have one in his shop, but because he did not purchase it from Apple, it would void the entire warranty on the <very expensive> Apple Powermac.

Without much choice, I resigned to the wait, realizing that Apple is much more concerned with itunes, iphones and other icrap than their computers.

acejames1 0 Junior Poster

that is as bad as the story a week in the life of a system administrator. it gives me a good laugh which helps me out

anilnithi 0 Newbie Poster

helllooooo

tebogo86 0 Newbie Poster

Strange but true! I 've been trying to open an Adobe file(Ver 8) on user's profile with no success, it just can't 'find' the application to view it.( Yes, I used open with.. command), Adobe is just not there. Anyone farmiliar with this situation? Is re-installing XP a definate answer??Please help

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