How do I install Linux to D Drive

[Gink]

I have 2 seperate HD's, both NTFS. D drive has lots of data etc on it, how would I install linux to D drive?

[w1r3sp33d]

I don't know of a distro that will install to/run from a NTFS partition.

Normally I would use a program like Partition Magic to shrink my D drive to how much I need and leave the remainder as unpartitioned space so that Linux can install there.

For example, I had a 40 gig d: on my pc but only 11 gig's of data. I used Partition Magic to shrink my drive to 20 gigs with 20 gigs of "unused space" then I rebooted to my slackware CD and I am off and running.

If you are just gettting started with Linux I suggest you try some live cd's and see how different they can look and feel, it will help you in deciding which one you want to load into the hard drive. Not required, just a suggestion.

OSNews just posted a story on different live cd's a couple days ago here http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=9569

[Gink]

Say I dont care what I have on my D Drive, would I be able to install a linux to it without affecting my C drive, and how?

[w1r3sp33d]

Then you would go into fdisk and remove the d: entirely, then run your install and have it use your newly found free space. You need to be very careful about not whacking your c: or MBR

You might want to nose around The Linux Documentation Project for info like this http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Installation-HOWTO/details.html#REPARTITIONING

[kc0arf]

Hello Gink,

Pleasure talking to you on the IRC by the way.

Windoze sees hard drives as a C: and a D: and so forth. They can be on the same physical disk (two partitions on the same disk), or can be different disks all together. They are defined, depending on what version of Windows you are using, by the Disk Administrator, or FDISK, or whatever you are running in the meantime.

It might be safe to say that your C: is on your Primary IDE, first partition. Then again, it might not be safe to say that. Best way to find out is to look at the hardware and see what IDE channel (Primary or Secondary) and then the partition number. You need to do this for both C: and D:

Linux references volumes in terms of their IDE channel, and their partition number.

/dev/hda is the IDE primary master
/dev/hdb is the IDE pirmary slave

/dev/hdc is the IDE secondary master
/dev/hdd is the IDE secondary slave

If you are using SCSI,

/dev/sda is the SCSI method.

Partition numbers are defined after the device...

/dev/hda3 is the third disk partition on the primary master.
/dev/hdc2 is the second disk partition on the secondary master.

Note that not all partitions on a hard drive are "data" locations. Some companies, like compaq, put a utility partition on the disk that is transparent to the OS.

So, what you need to do is find out what C: is in relation to your hardware... MAYBE /dev/hda1 is C: ... and what D: is... maybe /dev/hdb? and go from there. When installing linux, AVOID any changes to the C: partition.

Christian

[Gink]

Hello Gink,

It might be safe to say that your C: is on your Primary IDE, first partition. Then again, it might not be safe to say that. Best way to find out is to look at the hardware and see what IDE channel (Primary or Secondary) and then the partition number. You need to do this for both C: and D:

So, what you need to do is find out what C: is in relation to your hardware... MAYBE /dev/hda1 is C: ... and what D: is... maybe /dev/hdb? and go from there. When installing linux, AVOID any changes to the C: partition.

Christian

how would I check if its primary or secondary

[Gink]

my D says MBR also, what does that mean

[kc0arf]

Hi,

What OS are you running for Windoze?

MBR is Master Boot Record. That could be a problem if you format it.

Christian

[Gink]

windows XP

[DMR]

how would I check if its primary or secondary

As kc0arf said, the most definitive way to determine that would be to open the computer's case and look at how the drives are connected.

Assuming that you have IDE (as opposed to SATA) drives, there will be two connectors on the mothereboard for the IDE ribbon cables. One of those connectors is the Primary IDE channel, the other is the Secondary channel, and you can have a maximun of two drives connected to each. You can usually determine which connector is Primary and Secondary by looking for labels on the mobo (near the connectors) that say something like IDE 0 and IDE 1; the lower number is the Primary. Which device on each channel is the Master and which is the Slave is usually determined by jumper settings on the drives tehmselves.

If both of your hard drives are connected to the mobo by the same ribbon cable, then they are both on the Primary IDE channel. The drive jumpered as Master will be C: (Primary Master) and the drive jumpered as Slave will be D: (Primary Slave).

If the drives are connected to the mobo on two different ribbon cables, you'll first have to determine which cable is on which IDE channel. After that, if the second drive is the only device connected to the Secondary cable, it will be the Secondary Master; if you have another device like a CD-ROM drive attached to the Secondary cable as well, you'll have to check the jumper settings on each device to determine the Master/Slave relationship.