Posts by canadafred

A thought about signatures. A forum is a discussion arena between both the curious and the specialists. A signature should exist with every forum posting in order to give the forum reader an opportunity to examine more about the curious or the specialist.

When someone initiates a new thread, it naturally has no PR value. It is new. People that use their signatures in forums in hopes of leaping to the top of the SERPs are mislead by their own thinking.

A signature is like an accreditation, to give the writer's comments more validity. There's nothing more frustrating than reading a thought provoking post and wanting to find out more about the writer and his / her thoughts but can't find them.

Nobody really knows ... available in the SERPs.

I am no longer sure that my suggestions earlier in this thread significantly improved the speed at which these web sites popped out of the Sandbox.

It was an idea that really was in development at the time and I was over-enthusiastic in the manner in which I expressed my position.

I don't particularly endorse my previous take on this anymore. In the end it will all be best when positioning pages naturally occurs, in Google time and in Google way.

The quality of the traffic derived from sponsored ads has diminished over the past couple of months. I've noticed this more with one of the search engine provider's of cost-per-click traffic services, more so than the other important one.

When I check my server logs I see too many, of what appear to be visitors, who spend less than one second on the web site and then just go away. This visitor is the result of a specific keyphrase search. This visitor "examined" the title and description? Did he / she see the URL? I just don't how this is based on specific search results. Luckily the another major search provider seemingly doing a better job at this, in today's search engine market conditions.

I get ticked off the most when I try to track their source, and get stonewalled at an another IP number. I don't care to have the technical knowledge of what it is. Is there some way to avoid this and regain my confidence? It's happened before, it'll more than likely happen again, regain my confidence that is.

Question : Is there a name for this type of visitor. What would it be?

It becomes discouraging to watch money get collected by the "search engine" when it could be better used elsewhere. Too great is the volume of this and too much is the cost of sustaining this visitor, one initiated by an exact keyphrase search.

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Six months ago I would have suggested that you find suitable and relevant directories to submit to manually. Today, I feel that directory listings are a waste of time. Frequently they cause more harm than good to your web site. There are so many out there it is virtually impossible to pick out the good ones from the bad ones. You can't work it out with the PR values anymore as PR values are becoming increasingly obsolete indicators. For every ten that you spend time submitting perhaps one or two will actually honor the process, this is particularly true with the ones that require recip links.

I do however, highly recommend getting listings, even recip. listings, from keyphrase competitors. This is often a big challenge but SEO savvy webmasters clearly understand the mutual benefit. Make sure however, that their web sites are not banned or severely penalized from the results pages. PR is an indicator of this.

Concentrate on building your own quality content. Build pages daily. Save your time from trying to boost up your rankings from the outside and spend your time improving your own site from the inside. The better your web site becomes the more links that others will provide you without you even asking. The search engines are rewarding events that occur naturally, not events that are artificially manipulated.

If you want to improve your rankings, use these four rules of thumb :

1. find your best target market and understand …

The life in SEO, it's so on the edge.

I've finished experimenting with a technique. I now have only two sandboxed sites at this time, and I'm in no hurry to get them out as they are both in development. I'll share my experience with you, but use of the second technique is at your own risk.

There may be a couple of things that you can try and have worked for me, but it is safe to warn you that you are playing with fire here. Use at your own risk and there are no guarantees in SEO. Don't come back crying to me if you try this and get penalized. I'm talking about situations where you have no choice to get a web site out of the sandbox right now.

First of all, and the safest way, is to keep an updated Google Sitemap, make sure Google verifies it regularly. Make new pages everyday, modify your sitemap to reflect and force feed it to Google. Make it all seem sooo natural. They provide the tools to do this. Make new content daily and force it to spider the sandboxed site daily. Try this first for a couple of weeks then ... if all else fails, try this.

If the web site is able to migrate easily, embed it in a historically credible web site. Put it a couple of levels deeper than the Entrance page. Provide one link to it from the host domain …

Google doing PR up date at this time, started yesterday Feb 18 2006. This has been observed by specialists at Usenet group. I have personally had three web sites jump 3 PR's yesterday.

But If I had a domain name www.samscat.com, how can Google know to separate it into multiple words without the hyphens? If it's a single word, that's fine, but for multiple words, there really is no way to separate it? Is it "sams cat" or "sam scat" ??

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Google returns results for keyphrase searches. If the search was for "sams cat" or "sam scat" google would separate www.samscat.com either way.

This is just an opinion based on experimentation with both hyphenated and non-hyphenated domain names.

Google doesn't care whether a domain name is hyphenated or not, provided that the keywords are there. For example web-site-name.com and websitename.com will produce similar results.

MSN, however, absolutely loves hyphenated domain names, at this time anyway. That may change.

I suggest you take this concept one step further though, name web pages using logical naming conventions as well. For example, a web page named web-site-ptomotion.htm is much better than one named bunchoflettersandnumbers.HTML

Do this with graphics too, especially if you want your images to be searchable. Same theory, web-site-promotion.gif is way better than buchoflettersandnumbers.jpg . Throw in an alt attribute "Web Site Promotion". Provided that this technique is used sparingly, it can be effective in gaining additional weight for that page for the keyphrase.

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... I have also slowly developed links to the page and maintained a pr of 5.
However, I am still not ranking well for my main keywords. I am not ranking well in google due to the sandbox effect but hopefully this will not last much longer ...

Just curious, I reread this post and the subsequent follow-ups. How do you get a PR5 from a web site that is still sandboxed? I have 5 web sites sandboxed right now and if there is a way to get PR, please share it.

Another way to ask the question :

Anybody know where I can do a keyphrase search trend reports for the past year? I am looking for peak search periods for specific keyphrase searches not found in standard "top" keyphrase search trends reports.

I have been looking for something like this for a while with no success.

Any direction would be greatly appreciated.

I agree, most web site owners should be able to perform basic SEO on their own, if they have the time to sort through the information on this subject and have the time to apply what they feel is generally suggested.

There's tons of quality forums, newsgroups and web sites available.

The article is well written. So off I went to examine the first suggested SEO professionals.

The first web site is filled with the marketing jargon that the articles instructs us to avoid.

They deploy poor SEO for themselves: redirects pointing to the same page, PR 0 penalized entrance page, advanced pop-up windows that get through my pop-up blocker and cannot be closed, obscure examples of their successes ... I don't know, doesn't appear to be very ethical to promote this type of service here. Your visitors to this page might fall for it.

The well written article informs the reader of the imporatnce of not falling for guarnatees, well the first web site guarantees this :

" Super-Premium Package: In the Super-Premium Package, we optimize your site for 30 keywords and guarantee that we will get at least 24 top 10 positions for you within 6 months from the time that you order our services. Once again, if you get more than 24 top 10 positions, you don’t have to pay anything extra! Only $.... "

Are they the search engine Gods that dictate who position what where? I was looking for a top 10 for "online casinos", should get their super dooper pooper plan?

Their web site inform the visitor that they target these 11 search engines: AltaVista, AOL, Fast, Google, HotBot, IWon, Lycos, MSN, Netscape, Open Directory, Yahoo!

Anyone with any basic SEO knowledge clearly sees the misrepresentation here. I …

I have decided to stop focusing as much SEO attention on web sites for Google and Yahoo criteria. I find myself putting more and more of my searching time in MSN. It gives me better web sites.

I have been in SEO for a number of years and have closely watched search engines come and go. I have a very strong feeling that Google and Yahoo's days are numbered.

MSN seems to rank the entire web site much more critically than the other two. Google ranks pages more so than the web sites. If a site has a page that ranks high on Google, it is hardly ever from the best qualified site. I like the best site to have the best ranking for a keyphrase search then I don't have to go back to the SERPs again to find another aspect of my search, I'm already in a relevant site. I clicked the back button to return to Google SERPs so much I don't even have to look at the monitor anymore when doing so. My mouse automatically hovering over it.

Hi everyone

When I start a new web site promotion project one of the first thing, of course, is an anlysis to determine the most searched for keyphrases that are relevant and industry specific to the web site. I do this using the traditional tools available from the search engines themselves. We know it is practically useless to build a web site around keyphrases that have little search frequency.

Various tools provide various results. I find that I frequently end up having to change my target keyphrase strategy after a few months when I realize that the web site is targeting the wrong market. Some of my problem results from not understanding the psychology of the web searcher. What was his/her motive for performing the search and what was he/she really looking for.

Does anybody have a proven method in determining what keyphrases will be successful is generating leads? It is one thing to get top rankings for a challenging keyphrase and provide the visitor with a friendly web presentation but this is becoming insufficient for me in gaining new business for the client.

Any suggestion would be seriously considered and greatly appreciated.

Thanks

I had a quick look at the web services in question. My opinion is just an opinion, don't make your decision based on one person's opinion.

Wow, there sure is a happy glittering smiling person on the Entrance Page, surely their customers must be this happy ( sarcastic sorry ).

This service seems to be pretty good though. They rank very well for their particular target markets, TODAY. They are good self-promoters, that's a given. There are two questions that you need to ask yourself : what can they do for you within your budget and what happens to your web site down the road when their linking strategies disassemble.

The first thing I read when I showed up at the site is "We deliver website promotion that lists your website in top 10 search engine ranking positions across Google, Yahoo, AltaVista, AOL, Excite, Lycos AND MORE." I really have to wonder a couple of things. Where's MSN? Would they happen to get penalized by MSN for their SEO techniques? Secondly, optimizing for AltaVista, AOL, Excite, Lycos AND MORE, then on their web site they also include Hotbot, iWon, Netscape and AlltheWeb as taget search engines, is fairly useless and most of these now use Google results anyway.

What about guarantees? Ask for a gurantee. Nobody can guarantee claims like the one discussed above, especially for competitive keyphrases. I'm talking about the natural, organic search engine results not the sponsored; such pay-per-click listings ( you can …

There is absolutely nothing sustainable in your business concept. Most people don't want to have their personal information or Internet activities monitored, even if they are unaware of it, they will find out and the owner of the search engine that collects this data will be liable.

Sure, many web site owners would love to have a list of the competitor's contacts, but this we call in Canada "industrial espionage".

You seem to have a good head on your shoulders. You can surely come up with something more friendlier.

Update coming this March, Called the "big boy update" Spring Update said to shake things up since Jagger didn't do the trick.

I'm intrigued to find out more, do you have sources for this information?

This is another criteria that needs to find a balance. The whole epidemic to building links is created by the concept that Google rewards web pages that have greater link popularity. In most cases this has some validity, today. We know that the Google algos administer penalties to pages that contain only links on them, even though it may not appear to be the case. Web sites that have web pages containing many links on them can perform well in a keyphrase search but usually would perform even better with less links on them. This follows the original concept established at Sanford regarding PageRank. The more links going from the pages of a web site to other sites, the more PageRank it bled externally.

More and more, Google is swaying towards rewarding web pages that are intended for the Internet visitor. This makes sense. We know that Google is presently in a major renovation of it's algos and of it's PageRanking criteria. Link building has been abused for too long. Seldomly anymore do we get the best web site for the keyphrase search. We get the one that has the most links to it ( I'm talking about PR5+ keyphrase competitions in general ). How Google latest update will affect the SERPs, nobody knows. I feel safe to assume that Google wants to stick around for a while as a major search engine, even though it has it's fingers in other cookie jars. We have seen over the years …

I have watched your post since you submitted it and I think I understand why you haven't received any answers so far. Can you try to be more specific with your SEO questions?

They have a good forum here for tips on ASP and VB. I can't include the exact URL's, but if you found this one you should be able to find those ones.

As far as SEO tips, there's tons of good help available here.

I dislike specualtion, but I am inclined to believe that you are looking for a crash course in SEO. Here it is in three phrases:

1. Build Search Engine and Visitor Friendly Web Sites.
2. Offer Each Balanced and Logically Presented Keyphrase Rich Content.
3. Never Try to Trick Either of Them.

Are there any specific questions that you may have regarding SEO? I'm sure we are eager to help you.

I look at the concept of web site theming this way.

First, do keyphrase search frequency tests. Determine what keyphrase is the most searched for and is the most specific to your target market. Then, find five more relevant, related, industry specific terms.

This becomes the web site theme. A web site should now focus on this theme throughout, the web site theme being one primary keyphrase and five secondary keyphrases.

All of these keyphrases demonstrate importance on the Entrance Page. That is where you want to start most of the spider crawls. You can control this several ways, but that's another topic. On the Start page, include the keyphrases in Header tags, bolded text sometimes, textual links to each other, first words in paragrahs etc, but do this logically, not as an effort to manipulate the search engine but rather in an effort to indicate keyphrase importance. The visitor should get the same impression.

The keyphrases should exist in the actual content throughout the web site. In other words, these keyphrases should regularly appear throughout the sub-level pages, in order to boost the Home page. However, the primary keyphrase should be found somewhat more frequently than secondary keyphrases. You can then create sub-level pages that focus exclusively on any secondary keyphrase too but try to include at least one instance of the primary keyphrase and when you do this make sure that you have a primary keyphrase text link to the Cover page.

Thanks for the tips seo expert. Does Yahoo have a sandbox?

Nobody really knows specifically how any search engine operates ( unless you work for them of course ) , but from my experience with Yahoo, it seems that a fair answer to your question would be yes and no.

Yahoo uses several datapools when calculating results, some come from their own crawlers, some from back door submissions, some from paid submissions, some from other search engine databases, some that their own editors throw in ... and more.

The sites that their human editors approve or insert can get stuck in a queue seemingly forever, while some that come from other search engines are already available in the SERPs.

By the sounds of it, you are doing everything right. Be patient as Google is going through some growing pains again and hasn't done a major refresh in the last few months, testing new algos ...

I'd leave it alone for while so as to not appear to have deveoped too much too quickly.

what do you suggest for keywording a dynamic database, like a forum on mySQL or data on an SQL Server??

I would suggest you ask that question to someone in your Search Engine Optimization Directory of http://www.marketingtool.com

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