samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

I thought this might be an appropriate place to "spam" ;) So I'm going to just say it ... it would be great if any of you guys could help out our community by posting some of your VB code to our Code Snippets forum. It's currently the only empty forum here and it would be great to get it started.

I would, except I don't like how it's layed out. Also, I assume it's only for C++? It'd be cool if you set up something like this: http://www.hotscripts.com

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Well It's seems that a lot of people talk about using these programming languages but what I wondering is what do most of you do with these skills. I mean i got some Q-Basic knowledge and some Visual Basic.net skills but what kind of programs do you make or what do you do that is cool and fun? Just a fun topic to see what some newbie programmers do and what some pros do also. Thanks, Scott

There's tons of things you can do. Pick any program you use and copy it. If you start from scratch, you'll learn a lot. Here are some projects I started off with:

Address Book
E-Mail Client
Project Manager
Chat Program
Games
Groupware (Think of any program a big company would use for record keeping.)

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

i was wondering what language would any 1 recomend for some one interested in learning programming.
I am out of school i am 17 and i want to learn how to program i dont know what i want to start with i heard that its good to start with C# and then move on to C++.
I also heard that python is a good language.

i wasnt sure where to start i got a book but it only explains C# with using qbasic as a language and visual basic for a compiler interpreter etc.

But i dont know where to start i might be able to run qbasic i remember when i made my computer it asked if i wanted to put support for 16 bit programs but either way i dont know where to start can any 1 help?

the reason i want to get into programming i have built my own computer and i learned binary by myself in about 2 hours and that was one of the most satisfying experiences you see i realize i havnt accomplished much in my life but when i learned binary it gave me a feeling of accomplishment like i just did somthing that matterd and i thought if i go a step further into the black abyss of programming it might be able to fill a void that i feel in my life and if nothing else give me somthing to do.

well thanks for your help or at …

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

I think their design is too basic. People in other forums agree. Is there another company you have in mind? Not too flashy though.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

I never understood why you'd run a web site from home. The electricity, hardware, and software you spend (if you go with non-open source) costs more per month than a web host where you'd only pay $5.00 a month. I guess I can see why someone would want to do it, if you have special needs (something hosts don't provide) but if it's a basic site, I don't think it's worth it.

My two cents.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Thanks for your reply. The author of the article re-did it for me in plain text and I added the tags and away we went. It's not as fancy looking as the original that we put in our newsletter, but in reality it didnt need to be.

I have Arachnophilia, a freebie, but not Dreamweaver or Front Page. Are there any freebies that are particularly good? I dont need to do clever stuff very often, but this time it would have been handy to know how!

Thanks
Funkynassau

I suggest you learn to work with the basic tags first. For this you can use Notepad. Once you know what the basic tags do, and know what it takes to create a simple web page, move to an editor. It saves so much time as your web pages get more complex. Here are some free editors:

http://www.evrsoft.com/1stpage2.shtml
http://www.chami.com/html-kit/

You can just search download.com/google.com for "web editor", "html editor", "html gui", "html ide"

I've only tried a few free ones, but none compare to Dreamweaver or GoLive.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

I see it fine. Maybe his server went down for a short time. Looks OK to me! @_@

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Hmmm, you could download, install Apache, spend three hours poking it until it works, then setup PHP, go back to poking Apache, and learn how to do some absic PHP scripting, and persuade your host to install it.... or you could do this:

<script type="text/html" src="header.htm"></script>
and
<script type="text/html" src="footer.htm"></script>

That only applies when including JavaScript/VBScript, not HTML files. He'd have to output his HTML using JavaScript to make that work. I wish it worked though, because that would definitely come in useful! ;)

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague
samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague
samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

I have not seen such a senseless post in a long time. ;)

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Saving a Word document as a web page is a no-no. It adds so much unnecessary HTML and other bloat that makes it unmanageable. I recommend you recreate the page from scratch by hand or use Dreamweaver or even FrontPage. The HTML code that Word generates is a train wreck and it's not standard.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Your question is too broad. What exactly do you need help in? This is just a record set dump with proper formatting. I don't see how it can be hard. Please get back to us with anything more you need.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Other people had to suffer by taking it, so they want us to suffer as well. I never hear a CS student who's in the process of getting their degree comment on how beautiful CS/Math is... that is until they graduate. Then and only then will they comment on how exciting, rewarding, and fun it was. Some even brag about how easy it was over exaggerating. Of course they can say that, the nightmare is over! They don't have to take it anymore! ;)

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Let's pray Dani never organises a surprise party. :P

If she buys pizza, I'm there. I love pizza...

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samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Good ol' number 12.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Also, inscissor, very awesome graphics :) Naruto is the best!

It most certainly is! My favorite Anime so far. Lee's story is so encouraging. ^_^

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

hurt --> ouch

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

1- what i must have on my website? shopping basket and login, and what else? do i need to have online payment!! but i dont have a merchant account! whats simple ALTERNATIVE way?

Yes, you need those and a way to manage inventory/sales/customer info. As far as an alternative way, to emulate a true shopping cart, you need a merchant account, so I don't think there is another way. One that I know of anyways. The money that customers give you through their credit cards has to be dumped in an account, and that is usually the merchant account. If I were you, I would state to whomever was judging the project that I would be creating a shopping cart without the payment process.

2- is it good to choose ASP and Sql for such website?

As far as ASP, if it was five years ago, then maybe. I would not recommend starting a fresh application in ASP unless you had a company who uses strictly Microsoft solutions and already had applications or premade code that was in ASP. Microsoft is putting 100% of their effort in ASP.NET and within time, ASP software will be legendary software. There's tons of stuff you can find for ASP.NET languages, from free code and articles. It's quite popular, I'm sure you've heard of it. ASP.NET is a framework of tools and languages that's used to create web applications. You can select from the most popular languages to create web apps in, like …

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samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

how come you guys have bold colored names? how many posts do you need to get thems?

They are people that are moderators, admins, or colleagues.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Valium --> Ooh yeah

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

heres mine

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or here http://ee.domaindlx.com/goon/untitled.JPG

Whoa, J&#9788;E, you play D2 LoD? Since when? I used to be addicted to that game? How serious do you play it?

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Nice avatar by the way. DBZ used to be my favorite Anime. ^_^

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Actually, it's weird in my family. It seems like everyone, including myself is a Baptist, and my parents are Catholic. I went to a Catholic school when I was little just for the education and I was excused from some assignments because I was a Baptist.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

I never understood how the word "nerd" or "geek" was offensive. Even if you bury yourself in books, are a computer genius, have greasy hair, you can be an athletic demon with stunning good lucks and the nicest person in the world.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Woah... ok I think your missing the point here, and it's certainly not about being "turned on" as you say. No the point is that we have synthezied nearly everything from culture, to genes, and we're getting darn close to doing it with people... mostly women because as you mentioned previously it does take a certain type of "individual" to spend thousands of hours creating one of these artificial models. Reagrdless, as per my point with s1m0n3, that movie is all live action, storyline or not she is not a computer generated character, she is played by a real person, who does existe in flesh and blood. I think your missing what is being brought to the table here... have you ever read a William Gibson novel? :-|

...just noticed the thread moved, why? It has not much to do with Web Development or Web Design.

I understand your point, but you're misreading what I wrote. I'm giving you my point of view (my feelings) towards computer generated people. Of course I know that s1m0ne was played by an actual person, but in the movie, she was computer generated. If, in real life, it was possible to produce people of that same quality, it would be incredible.

I assume the book you mentioned has to do with your point. I have not read it. Nevertheless, I'm not disagreeing with you. I agree with your thoughts on our culture becoming more "synthesized." However, I was just giving you my thoughts …

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

In all seriousness, what religion are you guys? I'm Christian.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

I can't believe you guys are still talking about Darth Vader. I was listening to the radio this morning and heard a Verizon commercial and said to myself, "Oh no! Darth Vader is representing Verizon! Gak. "

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Beautiful Smells --> Rancid Cheese

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

I guess we'll wait until he modifies his post or explains why he put it up. The only reason why I would imagine he would is to display the negative connotation of the word "geek" and "lounge" but the definitions are not all negative.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Yeah right. Ever look at a bad Perl Script? I've never seen anything more sloppier than Perl code. That language is too abused and it's the easiest to be sloppy in. I'd rather see bad sloppy C++ code with gotos than bad Perl code any day.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Personally, I get my desktops from deviantart.com. Free too.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

And the point of that is...

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Oh man, Verisign. I'm convinced that that company is not run by humans, but by Perl scripts. Ever try getting in touch with technical support? Good luck. Good luck e-mailing someone there for help. All you'll get back is some automated e-mail that never helps and does nothing but irritate you even more.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

President --> BUSH

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

I play around 4 hours a week, (give or take a few) now because of work and school, but I just got laid off and I don't start school until March but that aside I still only play a few hours a week.

You can play Capcom vs. SNK EO through Xbox Live against peole around the world and it supports the Xbox Communicator (head set), I use to think I was good until I started playing people in Japan, there is a leaderboard and the top couple hundred people are from Japan, those guys are good at that game.

That said, SNK vs. Capcom Chaos and a new Guitly Gear X game are coming to Xbox Live this year.

I own all those games you mentioned above on emulation, and I own Super Mario 64 on the N 64 but I'm kind of "Mario'd out" and have no intentions of buying Mario Sunshine; although, I would like a Gamecube.

Yeah, "Capcom vs SNK" was the game I was talking about. My friend has it. And I know what you mean about Asians. I know it's a stereotype, but the best players I've played against, were Asians. Too bad, they still lost against me. ;)

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

When I was in middle-school and high school, I used to play video games about 4 hours a day. Actually, that was on weekdays I think. On weekends, my life revolved around video games. ;) The games that I would call myself a pro at (or was a pro) were Super Mario 1, 2, and 3, for NES, Super Mario Kart, Street Fighter 2, Starfox on the SNES, and Street Fighter Alpha 3 for PS1. I would have weekend tournaments at my house... oh man... so much fun!

When PS1 came out, the only reason I got it was because of Street Fighter Alpha 3. After that, I lost all interest in console gaming. I hear now you can play Street Fighter online through the XBox, which is something I've always dreamt about.

The games that I've been addicted to are as follows: Secret of Mana, Super Mario Bros. 3, Street Fighter (any version except where it's 3D fighting), and Diablo 2.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Sorry but s1m0n3 has nothing on FeiFei, and wasn't s1m0n3 a live actor, not a 3D model? FeiFei is an add project in Japan, she sells soft drinks, computers, cloths, ect... she's 100% digital... and 100% unbeleivable. Take a look... sort of disturbing how close we're getting to making synthetic people.

FeiFei

Mind you she is about 4 years old I think... 3D tech has grown leaps and bounds since then...

s1m0ne was supposedly computer generated in the movie. Of course it's a movie and it's fake, but my point was that she looked real even though she was the product of a computer. I don't know about you, but I get turned more from seeing people that look real rather than computer-ee.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Where is the ASP server being run? Your computer? A provider? I assume you're running PWS? To avoid problems if you're running PWS, just go with a free ASP host like: http://www.1asphost.com/. If you still want to run it from your home, give us a little more information about where you're hosting your ASP pages.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

I think it's common sense to not remove it. Then again, if you didn't have the sense to park there in the first place, then chances are you're going to do something dumb like that.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

PHP all the way. ^_^

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

The site is including JavaScript files when loaded, and they're probably using JS commands that cause an error in IE. HTML seems fine, and even if it wasn't, it would stop the loading after a few seconds no matter how bad it was. It's definitely bad JS, or an outside resource that doesn't like IE. I doubt that they're twisted enough to purposely make IE users suffer.

I'm pretty sure it's in PHP because I did see some pages with a PHP extension. I also saw pages using the PHP session IDs to track user sessions.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Yeah I remember this. It's a good thing that he pasted his code because I don't think one site exists that shows how to do this. Especially this clean. It's rare.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Well, because you mentioned Apache/Perl, I'm assuming you want to go with open source software? Here's what you need in general, all open source and free:

Apache HTTP Server - Used for hosting HTML pages.
PHP/Perl - Binds with Apache in order to create web applications, like what you're trying to do with users (create/manager/etc.)
MySQL - Database to store user/web site information as well as to paths to the files you want users to download.

If you have MySQL and Apache set up, you can program the rest in Perl or PHP. I suggest you apply the correct rights on the files so not just anyone can download them. They'll need to create an account first in order to download them, or any way you prefer.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Maybe if it was a motorcycle, he could've had an easier time.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Still not the real thing. ;) It still has the touch of CGI that just makes me feel not as attracted as I would with a real person. Who knows, maybe there are people out there (tremendously horny geeks) that can make one as real as s1m0ne.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

IFRAMEs are still used in several CMS related web apps. When dealing with a lot of data, it's wise to use them rather than scrolling through 1000 records of information. The reason why they are used is so you have menus and other tools visible to the user, otherwise, as soon as you scroll, you'd lose visibility of them. I'm using IFRAMEs in a project manager right now I'm doing in PHP. ;)

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

Bill --> Clinton

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

I hear you. When I use mine, hours go by as minutes.

samaru 145 a.k.a inscissor Team Colleague

There are different aspects to consider when asking this question. From a server point of view? From a usability point of view? Price? Difficulty? There is no winner if you simply say "Windows vs Linux" because how one uses an OS is always dependent on the user's needs/ability/pocket.

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