DaveSW 15 Master Poster

breadcrumbs work: that's
Home > Sub Category 1 > Sub sub category1

Then make the top end pages link to separate pages with a plain version of that dropdown category.

Are you using any includes or anything to make your life easier in terms of including content?

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

there's one here: http://www.quirksmode.org/css/contents.html
but I've seen a better one somewhere

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

don't forget to learn some css while you're there:

<body style="background: #ffffff (faded_image.jpg) 0% 0% no-repeat;

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

basically it's the way you build it rather than the tool you use. Dreamweaver is perfectly capable of building within web standards, but you need to know what you're doing, for it to know what it's to do.

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

As I remember it IE4 supports absolute positioning, so there's nothing bad in using it.

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

Without seeing your code it's hard to comment, but personally I'd absolutely position the images in the top corners and just have them sitting on top of a div that fits the full width. Set margins on the middle one so the contents don't disappear under your edge ones.

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

yeah you can have a basic style on the first and change it to something comlicated on the @import. If you change the same property on your @import it will override the basic style.

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

Yeah I was kidding. Sort of. The @import rule is probably the simplest of 'browser detection/serve up appropriate css' methods.

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

That's it. It's almost back to the days of browser detection and serve up whatever is appropriate...

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

lol
Here's a tip for you for older browsers:

Put a link to a stylesheet. On that stylesheet have really basic stuff that version 4 browsers understand. At the top of that sheet import a stylesheet for modern browsers using:
@import url(real.css);

That hides the complex code from the old browsers, and ensures the sites displays it's content to everyone.

Also I can explain how the design works if you like.

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

that design would be a lot easier in 2d if you wanted to try it.

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

here's a rough and ready only tested in IE version of your link

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>Autocrat</title>
<style type="text/css"><!--
body {
  background: #09f;
  margin: 0;
  padding: 0;
}
#container {
  margin-right: 20px;
}
#header1 {
  background: #fff url(image1.jpg) bottom repeat-x;
}
#header2 {
  background: url(image7.jpg) right repeat-y;
}
#header3 {
  background: url(image8.jpg) 100% 100% no-repeat;
  height: 200px;
  text-align: center;
}
#lefta {
  background: #fff url(image6.jpg) 100% 0 no-repeat;
  position: absolute;
  top: 183px;
  left: 0px;
  height: 50px;
  width: 200px;
}
#left1 {
  position: absolute;
  top: 233px;
  left: 0px;
  width: 200px;
}
#left2 {
  background: #fff url(image7.jpg) right repeat-y;
  margin-right: 37px;
}
#left3 {
  background: url(image1.jpg) bottom repeat-x;
}
#left4 {
  background: url(image8.jpg) 100% 100% no-repeat;
  padding-bottom: 200px;
}

--></style>
</head>
<body>
<div id="container"><div id="header1"><div id="header2"><div id="header3">
<h1>Header Here</h1>
</div></div></div></div>

<div id="lefta">&nbsp;</div><div id="left1"><div id="left2"><div id="left3"><div id="left4">
Some side bar content to stretch it down.
</div></div></div></div>
</body>
DaveSW 15 Master Poster

I know exactly what it says mate. The point is that tiny bit of javascript makes it work in IE. It works via pure CSS for Gecko browsers. Text only browsers don't support either so they get a nice unordered list. A browser that supports basic css but not javascript will display your top level menu, which should constitute links to pages with the sub menus on anyway... If you use the @import rule to hide your code from older browsers then they get a straight unordered list too.
Basically the accessibility is in your implementation of the code. Obviously it's a load easier not to use drop downs, but if you want to use them then that's how.

DaveSW 15 Master Poster
DaveSW 15 Master Poster

I generally prefer 100% width with fixed width left menu.
You can look at some of the industry leaders in CSS based design on http://www.mezzoblue.com/ http://www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk/ & http://www.stopdesign.com/

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

isn't it a compuserve gif?
Anyway, maybe you should try looking at http://www.jpeg.org/jpeg/index.html

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

Yeah - a lot of people have missed that it's that simple. I'll see if I can find some examples for you for the other link you posted in the other thread.

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

yeah easy.
I'll go look on my other machine and see what designs I have that are like it (in CSS terms)

DaveSW 15 Master Poster
DaveSW 15 Master Poster

I'd say it's just difficult. Do you have a table based site illustrating what you want?

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

Great!

;)

DaveSW 15 Master Poster
DaveSW 15 Master Poster

Dani, what else could you offer other than free technical support?? lol

EDIT: 500 posts - yay!

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

well you could read the hex dump using http://www.safer-networking.org/en/filealyzer/

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

The puritan view would be that tables are for data, css is for layouts, but using tables with css properties is often a good way to learn more about CSS.

I've been helping Merijn (author of HiJackThis) with a new layout for his site entirely in css, and that's pretty complicated - top tabs, side tabs, etc.

So some links you might like to browse to see what is possible:
http://www.csszengarden.com/
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/practicalcss/

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

2ndPlatform, I mean in the sample code you gave earlier in the thread, not anywhere on your site ;)

autocrat, clear left/right/both can be used as follows:

<div class="bodyDIV">
<div class="leftColDIV">
Content for the left col - TEXT
</div>
<div class="leftColDIV">
Content for the right col - IMAGE
</div>
<hr>
</div>

If you then apply clear:both to the hr your containing div will always be longer than the two floated elements inside it - In moz it would otherwise just default back to 0px high...
Generally with that sort of layout you would be specifying the background on the bodyDIV, so if it drops to 0px on an inversed color layout you'd be wondering what was going on.
You also need an element with clear:both after you've finished all your floats and want to get back to normal layouts...

Have a look at the code on my liks, you'll see what I mean!

Have I missed a link in here somewhere?

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

2ndplatform, you need a clear: both; in there on something under your floats or your layout is going to get screwed up totally in anything other than IE...

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

ok go with the box model since I have a lecture in 15 mins:

In IE, you set the width of an object, and margins, padding, etc are subtracted from that width.

In Moz, you set a width, and margins, padding etc are added to that width.

So if you have a width and some padding on an object, it will have a different total width in the two different browsers.

So the workaround (not the hack):
Use nested elements:
<div id="div1"><div id="div2">

</div></div>
Now we apply a width to div1 (our container), and put margin/padding etc on div2 so that both browsers will render exactly the same.

I'll look at your other problem later if I have a chance. http://www.bluerobot.com/web/layouts/ have some good layouts

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

if you show us what you've got we'll see if we can tell you how to build it better ;)

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

well do it in flash then...

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

I don't use trillian3.
the popup thing with a double green underline sounds like the ms smart tag. because that's exactly what one looks like..

So you want a server script that looks at every word on the page, looks at wikipedia, and automatically generates a tooltip (that's the title attribute) if the word is there?

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

use the title attribute: <span title="explanation">difficult word</span>

Incidentally what you saw on the other site is probably a Microsoft Smart Tag - more pervasive advertising by them :rolleyes: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/smarttags/

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

no worries ;) which did you choose?

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

umm that looks like the program rather than the log...
the log file is stored in the directory you ran the script from, but it's a .txt file I think.

Have you considered AVG free antivirus? http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/2/

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

well I don't really understand how you're using it, but in simple html terms:
<div style="background: url(http://www.mydomain/image.jpg) center no-repeat;">Your content in here</div>

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

Update: Google has reindexed and we're up to the #1 spot. PR is still at 1, but c'est la vie.
Google directory has also updated.

So back to my last question, would using a keyword only link rather than a company name link work better?

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

follow the instructions for xp on this page: http://www.pchell.com/virus/systemrestore.shtml do the re-enable first, then the disable, then re-enable. ;)

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

Ah I see. Well if you don't delete your existing restore points the one containing the virus will still be there...
Try re-enabling, disabling and removing all system restore points.
Log looks clean btw.

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

also did you click yes to delete existing system restore points when you turned off system restore?

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

you tick the box next to them and click 'fix checked'.

btw it appears that you're using an old version. Could you update it and rescan please?

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

Ok that looks clean but there are a few broken links you might want to fix:
O3 - Toolbar: (no name) - {BDAD1DAD-C946-4A17-ADC1-64B5B4FF55D0} - (no file)
O9 - Extra button: ieSpell - {0E17D5B7-9F5D-4fee-9DF6-CA6EE38B68A8} - res://C:\Program Files\ieSpell\iespell.dll/SPELLCHECK.HTM (file missing)
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: ieSpell - {0E17D5B7-9F5D-4fee-9DF6-CA6EE38B68A8} - res://C:\Program Files\ieSpell\iespell.dll/SPELLCHECK.HTM (file missing)
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {1606D6F9-9D3B-4aea-A025-ED5B2FD488E7} - res://C:\Program Files\ieSpell\iespell.dll/SPELLOPTION.HTM (file missing)
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: ieSpell Options - {1606D6F9-9D3B-4aea-A025-ED5B2FD488E7} - res://C:\Program Files\ieSpell\iespell.dll/SPELLOPTION.HTM (file missing)

Did it give an actual filename on the error?

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

can you post a hijackthis log please? there should be instructions somewhere, and there's a link in my sig.
Cheers
Dave

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

Is there a driver that allowes me to read NTFS in mac os x ?

try http://sourceforge.net/projects/ntfsosx/

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

ok in that case you have a few options open to you:

1) the traditional mailto: note this doesn't work unless the user has dedicated email software. AOL users willl think your site is junk.

<FORM METHOD=POST ACTION="mailto:someone@$nailmail.com" ENCTYPE="text/plain">
<!-- your form here -->
<INPUT TYPE="submit" VALUE="Send">
<INPUT TYPE="reset" VALUE="Clear">
</FORM>

2) Javascript processing:
http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-06-1996/jw-06-javascript.html
Doesn't work for users with javascript disabled (about 10%)

3) Borrow someone elses php processing: see link below, second post, someone offering to handle low volume email.
http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39991

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

just thinking, would it be better if I just used keywords for link text, not the company name? then I'd get the links, but not lose the keywords? or have I got it wrong again?

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

do you have a server side language like php available on your server?

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

have you tried using an absolute link to your image?

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

I believe it's either done using cookies, or by passing (small quantities) of data in the url.

E.g. I use php to pass data on one of my sites: you create an image id number, e.g. 0000001. You link using www.mysite.com/pic.php?imgid=0000001

The second page then reads the variable imgid as having a value of 0000001. It makes a page in my templated style with 0000001.jpg in the middle, 0000001.txt included below it.

This means my one page produces up to a million image preview pages, all in my template.

If you can't get any help with it let me know and I'll see what I can suggest.

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

Update: well I removed it from my sig entirely in these forums, and the site has now moved up a place in a google search for the company name (it's behind a forum sig I haven't yet removed), and daniweb has disappeared as a result for the company.

So do I have a choice between lots of poor links for other search engines and a few good links for google, or is there a way to beat daniweb with my site? ;)

DaveSW 15 Master Poster

Excuse my ignorance but why would you need a crack for a free download? :confused:
Or has it been released?