Cant boot tecra8100 after deleting partition

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tbeckstr 0 Newbie Poster

22 Years Ago

I TRIED to do a clean install using XP, it froze at 15% during the formatting process, and I havent been able to continue instal or even boot the old tecra 8100:sad:

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHELP PLEASE
Tbeckstr

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Quick diagnosis and what to prioritise first — the setup freezes at different points and you now get a HAL.DLL error. That pattern usually means one of three things: the installer media is unreliable, the disk/partition or filesystem is damaged, or the drive is failing. Before doing anything that destroys data, try to confirm whether the XP disc and burn are okay (test the CD on another machine) and run filesystem checks from the Recovery Console; a hardware failure is listed as a possible cause and CHKDSK /r is the recommended first repair step. (support.microsoft.com)

Concrete Recovery Console steps (safer order):

Boot the XP CD and enter the Recovery Console. The Recovery Console environment uses DiskPart for partition work (FDISK is not available there), so don’t expect the old DOS fdisk command to work inside RC — use DiskPart or an external boot tool instead. (learn.microsoft.com)
Run a thorough disk check: at the RC prompt run
```
chkdsk C: /r
```
and, if you need to restore the HAL file from the CD, use the expand command from the i386 folder. Example:
```
expand d:\i386\hal.dl_ c:\windows\system32\hal.dll
```
If expand or chkdsk fails with “access denied” or cannot read sectors, that strongly points to disk corruption or hardware failure. (learn.microsoft.com)

Why your “bootable CD” attempts sometimes won’t work and what to do instead — writing a floppy image or a boot sector onto a CD must be done as a boot image (El‑Torito), not as a plain data file. Burning the .img with the “Burn image / Make bootable CD” option (or using a tool that writes an El‑Torito boot image) is required; simply copying the files will not produce a bootable disk. If Nero’s “make bootable” option still won’t start on the Tecra, try one of these fallbacks: test another installer disc, burn the ISO with a different burner program that supports boot images, or remove the laptop drive and attach it to another PC (via an adapter) so you can repartition/format or copy data off it. (wiki.osdev.org)

Notes tied to the thread: ’s idea to repartition is reasonable, but in the Recovery Console you need DiskPart rather than fdisk. and were right to push a bootable disc — most failures I see were due to the disc not being burned as a proper boot image, or a failing drive. If the drive is noisy or chkdsk reports unreadable sectors, stop re‑install attempts and replace the drive (recover data first). (learn.microsoft.com)

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chanto! 41 Light Poster

22 Years Ago

I TRIED to do a clean install using XP, it froze at 15% during the formatting process, and I havent been able to continue instal or even boot the old tecra 8100:sad:
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHELP PLEASE
Tbeckstr

Is it consistently freezing at 15%? In other word, have you tried the install process more than once? You can still boot to the CDROM drive, can't you? If not, get into the CMOS setup and set the CDROM drive to boot before the hard drive.

If the format is freezing everytime, your problem is much greater than getting XP installed. You certainly don't want to experience data corruption later on.

What about getting ahold of a DOS boot disk and use it to create a bootable partition and format it with a FAT32 filesystem. Then try the XP installation again, except select the option to leave the filesystem alone.

chanto! 41 Light Poster

22 Years Ago

The CMOS is set to boot the cd-drive...I tried the instal again today it froze at 77%. I do not have the optional floppy drive........

Does that mean 77% for the format process and not the total installation process? When it's "froze", do you see and hear any hard drive activity? If you do hear the hard drive head banging or re-seeking, then you'll need to replace the hard drive.

Try disabling XP's ACPI support during installation, some of older BIOS's do cause lockups. Hit F8 as your computer boots up from the XP cd...about the same time you see the message "Hit F6..."... or maybe just keep hitting F8 for about 20 seconds as the XP cd boots. Also make sure that the XP cd is not scratched.

suRoot 11 Posting Whiz in Training

22 Years Ago

Make an FDISK and delete the partition again in that, and then recreate a new partition, and when it asks you if you want full or quick format on the xp install select quick, if that freezes try full

i686-linux 75 Posting Whiz in Training

22 Years Ago

Can you install a different OS, or use a different XP cd? I don't know which one the tecra 8100 is, but did it come with XP originally?

BountyX 7 Posting Whiz in Training

22 Years Ago

get a hold of pation magic recovery disks, and redo your partioning and try the install again.

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tbeckstr 0 Newbie Poster · Answer 1 · 2004-04-05T07:07:44+00:00

The CMOS is set to boot the cd-drive...I tried the instal again today it froze at 77%. I do not have the optional floppy drive........

tbeckstr 0 Newbie Poster · Answer 2 · 2004-04-08T02:12:27+00:00

New problem...made it the enter product id code,

then it went black, exception ERROR HHHHF

tbeckstr 0 Newbie Poster · Answer 3 · 2004-04-08T02:14:28+00:00

another problem, I dont have the optional external floppy drive......
Thanks so much..
.poor nubies :-(

tbeckstr 0 Newbie Poster · Answer 4 · 2004-04-09T08:17:49+00:00

No, originally it had 98 or 2000nt.....I dont have the external a drive, and I cant seem to make a bootable cd,,I tried ISO Magic, with no success..............

tbeckstr 0 Newbie Poster · Answer 5 · 2004-04-09T08:20:08+00:00

I have gotten it past the windows registration key..new message. cant initialize windows(win32) missing hal.dll reinstal file...but it restarts the entire process and I get the same message

tbeckstr 0 Newbie Poster · Answer 6 · 2004-04-11T02:34:16+00:00

Make an FDISK and delete the partition again in that, and then recreate a new partition, and when it asks you if you want full or quick format on the xp install select quick, if that freezes try full

I can only acess the recovery console ,in C: And it doesnt recognize the FDISK command......

caperjack 875 I hate 20 Questions Team Colleague · Answer 7 · 2004-04-11T05:32:58+00:00

No, originally it had 98 or 2000nt.....I dont have the external a drive, and I cant seem to make a bootable cd,,I tried ISO Magic, with no success..............

Do you have Nero ,if so use it to create win98 bootdisk and use fdisk to delete non dos partition and create and format a new partition .and start over.
get win98 bootdisk here to copy to cdrom
http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm

tbeckstr 0 Newbie Poster · Answer 8 · 2004-04-15T05:40:04+00:00

tbeckstr 0 Newbie Poster

22 Years Ago

Im all over it...will Roxio create a bootable CD?

Yzk 70 Posting Whiz · Answer 9 · 2004-04-15T13:43:52+00:00

caperjack Quote:
Originally Posted by tbeckstr

Do you have Nero ,if so use it to create win98 bootdisk and use fdisk to delete non dos partition and create and format a new partition .and start over.
get win98 bootdisk here to copy to cdrom
http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm

I looked on www.roxio.com it says that you can create your own personal CD's. There's even an online tutorial:
http://www.roxio.com/en/support/tutorials/ecdc/tutorial_toc.jhtml

And like Caperjack said, go to the website he mentioned to get the bootdisk and use Roxio or any other CD-burning program, I recommend using Nero though, to copy the bootdisk to the CD-Rom.

tbeckstr 0 Newbie Poster · Answer 10 · 2004-04-17T23:36:05+00:00

I am trying it this weekend, I am afraid of loosing the system files , xp has all of the drivers , and 98 well....you know..will it boot the dvd drive. Xp boots the cd from the DVD drive...any idea??..It starts up great now but Wont load windows xp , could never finish the install. I am going to do the 98 bootable cd..if it will boot from the DvD drive,...THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE

tbeckstr 0 Newbie Poster · Answer 11 · 2004-04-29T05:19:57+00:00

Well I dont knowe what the problem is . I downloaded Nero, went to bootdisk.com and burned a win98 boot disk to a cd and...it wont boot the TECRA.......

caperjack 875 I hate 20 Questions Team Colleague · Answer 12 · 2004-04-29T14:08:25+00:00

caperjack 875 I hate 20 Questions

22 Years Ago

in nero did you choose the option to, make a bootiable disk

Yzk 70 Posting Whiz · Answer 13 · 2004-04-29T14:16:49+00:00

In the startup, I mean when you click the on button. You need to get into the BIOS setup. Mostly it's the Del from Delete button. This my friend, is the drive for your computer. The most basic part. Be careful when you try to change something here. But the thing that you want to change is the "Boot up order". I can't really say which menu it is. But it should be around there. Normally it stands in this order:
A: (floppy drive)
IDE0 (Hard Drive)
CDROM

caperjack 875 I hate 20 Questions Team Colleague · Answer 14 · 2004-04-29T14:51:15+00:00

to change boot sequence in the BIOS its usually in the Boot section Phoenix bios or in the Advanced BIOS features in Awared BIOS!
Award Bios

tbeckstr 0 Newbie Poster · Answer 15 · 2004-05-07T11:56:19+00:00

:evil: I have no problem changing the boot order,,I omly have the HDD or CD drive..I chose the bootable cd option in NERO.
It didnt work.I did something wrong...

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