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Hi Graham

Thanks for your comments, you seem quite the authority on GDI, and very confident that GDI have any corporate responsibility? What a rather unique hobby?

Much like ISP's that host known spam organisations, GDI still stand to achieve the most profit ($9 per month, per referral) from members who break the "rules" to achieve sales or referrals. Forgive the comparison, but did you ever hear of a pimp that slept with the clients?

I have commented your message in Red...

Hi Macmagician,

GDI does not send out spam to anyone.
So, I didn't get repeated unsolicited mail explicitly selling only GDI then?

There is a facility for affiliates to send emails to people they know, which then puts them in an auto-responder sequence.
Sounds dangerous and highly irresponsible!

Affiliates are not allowed to use this facility to contact people they don't personally know.
Well, someone did! Are they in big trouble beacuse Graham said they are boldly not allowed?

This is most likely what has happened to you. If you would like to forward the email with full headers to me via my profile, I will let you know if it is GDI spam or a member abusing the "invite" system.

What happened to me is I was spammed, selling GDI, and I don't actually care how it happened! I have already sent copies to those concerned, to those that profit from my being harassed, and to the relevant authorities that I am pursuing the matter with.

Graham

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Hi Macmagician,

I have been with GDI for 6 months. I know what they do and don't do, that's all.

Yes you got spammed, but not from the company; only one of its affiliates. That affiliate could well find their account terminated as a result.

GDI won't make $9 from "sacked affiliates".

I'm not sure what you are getting at about pimps and clients, but I am 53 years old and too old to play mind games.

I don't intend to start or get involved in a flame situation.

I am simply trying to ensure people see both sides of the story.

Graham

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Hi Macmagician,

I have been with GDI for 6 months. I know what they do and don't do, that's all.

Yes you got spammed, but not from the company; only one of its affiliates. That affiliate could well find their account terminated as a result.

GDI won't make $9 from "sacked affiliates".

I'm not sure what you are getting at about pimps and clients, but I am 53 years old and too old to play mind games.

I don't intend to start or get involved in a flame situation.

I am simply trying to ensure people see both sides of the story.

Graham

Thanks again Graham...

Absolutely no flame or mind games intended, and I do value your comments as someone in the know, and entertain that their may be a chance that GDI actually dislike spam and internet abuse as much as I do. The proof will be in whether, despite my complaints, I continue to receive the unwanted mail.

GDI employ a system that on this occasion has been proven to be open to abuse by those less distinguished and moral than your good self. If they don't like that fact, then they might act accordingly and responsibly by dealing with the problem? The only way internet abuse will decrease is if it is not facilitated and encouraged in the first place.

Out of curiosity and for the purpose of this debate, if a GDI client account is terminated for breaking the rules, are all their referred clients accounts terminated too, or would GDI continue to profit from the referred clients business? And is there any chance the terminated client might continue to trade as a self referred client?

Best, and thanks again

Mac

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Out of curiosity and for the purpose of this debate, if a GDI client account is terminated for breaking the rules, are all their referred clients accounts terminated too, or would GDI continue to profit from the referred clients business? And is there any chance the terminated client might continue to trade as a self referred client?

Hi Mac,

When an affiliate quits or is terminated, the downline simply compresses upwards.

Why should everyone else suffer because their upline does the wrong thing?

When GDI terminates an affiliate, they can never rejoin. If they were that determined, they could always use a different identity and credit card, there's no way anyone can prevent that.

I'm not sure what you mean by "self referred client". GDI, like all affiliate programs is the equivalent to a franchise in the real world. If you get fired from Mac Donalds, you can't open up your own outlet next door.

Regards,

Graham

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I just started with GDI I see some of you have good things to say and some not so good. I would really like some input and what they have out there to offer or a good way to go about the whole thing

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I am no longer with GDI.

After 6 months, I looked at my income and expenses; the amount of time and effort I had put in and weighed up the results.

The conclusion I came to was, I was "way in the red".

I don't have anything against GDI, it just wasn't for me.

Come to think of it, after 6 years online I haven't found anything that was for me, so don't let my decision affect yours :)

Cheers,

Graham

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thanks graham I'll make sure not to sign up for too many extras if there are any.
thanks again for the input

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This says it all for me!

Revoked by the BBB's Board of Directors

BBB Reliability Report

WebSite.ws
701 Palomar Airport Rd #300
Carlsbad, CA 92009

General Information:
Original Business Start Date: August 2001
Local Business Start Date: November 1999
Type of Entity: Corporation
Principal : Mr Jon Bailey Director of Operations
Phone Number: (760) 602-3000
Fax Number: (760) 602-3099
BBB Membership: This company is not a member
Type-of-Business Classification: Internet Services
Website Address: www.website.ws

The information in this report has either been provided by the company, or has been compiled by the Bureau from other sources.

BBB Membership:
On April 20, 2005 this company's membership in the BBB was revoked by the BBB's Board of Directors due to failure to cooperate with the BBB on advertising matters.
Nature of Business

This company offers website services and products including domain registration. Recently the company has begun offering a multi-level marketing program that encourages people to invite everyone they personally know with an automated email invitation system to participate in the program that consists of purchasing a .ws registration from the company for $10 a month. From there, anybody who responds to the email and also participates in the program, the originator of the email is to be paid a commission.


Customer Experience:
Based on BBB files, this company has an unsatisfactory record with the Bureau due to unanswered complaint(s). The company has resolved most complaint(s) presented by the Bureau; however, the Bureau did not receive a response to other complaint(s). Recent complaints are with regards to the free trial offer of a website domain. Consumers are stating that they attempt to cancel after the free trial offer and they are unable to do so. They claim that they continue to be charged for the service.

When evaluating complaint information, please consider the company's size and volume of business. The number of complaints filed against the company may not be as important as the type of complaints and how the company handled them.

Closed Complaints:
Number of complaints processed by the BBB in last 36 Months: 10
Number of complaints processed by the BBB in last 12 months: 2


Complaints Concerned:
Repair or Service Issues: 1
Outcome of the complaint -
Resolved: 1

Refund or Exchange Issues: 2
Outcome of all complaints -
Resolved: 2

Customer Service Issues: 6
Outcome of all complaints -
Resolved: 6

Credit or Billing Issues: 1
Outcome of the complaint -
Company did not respond: 1

Additional Information:
Additional Doing-Business-As Names: GDI
Global Domains International
Additional TOB Classifications: Internet Servers
Internet Web Design

Company Management:
Additional company management personnel include:
Mr Alan Ezeir President
Mr Michael Reed CEO

Company Advertising:
This company is currently offering a multi-level marketing program and they are advertising income claims including "Earning Quiet Fortunes From Home", "BUILD YOUR INCOME FOR LIFE", "have the financial independence", "a reliable, LIFELONG MONTHLY INCOME ", "Unlimited Income Potential", etc. The company has not provided substantiation for these claims or shown that these claims can be met by the average consumer joining their program.

Report as of 06/29/2005
Copyright 2005 Better Business Bureau of San Diego

As a matter of policy, the Better Business Bureau does not endorse any product, service or company. BBB reports generally cover a three-year reporting period, and are provided solely to assist you in exercising your own best judgment. Information contained herein is believed reliable but not guaranteed as to accuracy. Reports are subject to change at any time.

The Better Business Bureau reports on members and non-members. Membership in the BBB is voluntary, and members must meet and maintain BBB standards. If a company is a member of this BBB, it is stated in this report.

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I'm interested to see if someone can convince me, because I'm afraid I don't get it yet.

The sales pitch is that the .ws domain names are something to be sought after, because the .coms are all used up, and people will 'expect' companies and individuals to have their WebSite or WS address. Somewhere downline, someone must be buying one or more of these domain names for individual use as opposed to merely marketing GDI, however, none of them appear to be the ones whose testimonials appear on the promotionals. When I look at any of their sites, all I get is a duplication of the GDI site, or a thinly-disguised 'skin' that eventually leads to GDI.

If I've read this right, all that's going to happen is that the Internet gets clogged up with redundant .ws sites, all of which lead to GDI. Once enough downlines have been processed to use up all the standard names (JohnSmith.ws, FredJones.ws, etc), people will get sick of trying to register their own name, give up, and the money will dry up. Likewise if enough people are actually persuaded that they should have a .ws domain name, and actually just register their own and use it for a personal or commerce site, the money will also dry up.

Have I missed something here? If so, please tell me.

Regards, Graham

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I'VE BEEN LOOKING INTO GLOBAL DOMAINS AND MANY OTHER COMPANIES. WHAT MAKES MLM DIFFERENT FROM A PYRAMIND SCHEME? I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THAT IS.

My understanding of the difference between MLM & pyramid schemes is that in a pyramid stock is purchased as part of the membership, usually then sold down & down the downline with little, if any used (think of soaps in one of the early pyramids?). In an MLM scheme, the product is sold to an end user, & commission paid to the upline. So if the sites just refer to each other, just promoting .ws, it sounds a bit pyramidish. The email facility is an end user item though.

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No I have not heard of them but have seen a lot of special TLD domain sellers out there selling .ws domain names.

They are not worth much unless they are very short generic names, then you may have something, but most of those are taken already in all the TLD's

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No I have not heard of them but have seen a lot of special TLD domain sellers out there selling .ws domain names.

They are not worth much unless they are very short generic names, then you may have something, but most of those are taken already in all the TLD's

I've been with GDI for 6 weeks now and I am loving it!
For $10 a month - Website, Domain Name, Hosting and all the extras, you just can't beat it.
Plus you can try it all Free for 7 days and cancel anytime.
So many other offers simply don't let you do that. You can work the business (leave your domain name pointed to the cool movie) or you can build your website to promote anything you choose.
You can even use it as a gateway page for another domain because it has URL forwarding!
At any rate, so far it's the best affiliate program that I've found on the web and I'm loving it. You can check it out yourself at my website in my profile.

Gayle

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I've been with GDI for 6 weeks now and I am loving it!
For $10 a month - Website, Domain Name, Hosting and all the extras, you just can't beat it.
Plus you can try it all Free for 7 days and cancel anytime.
So many other offers simply don't let you do that. You can work the business (leave your domain name pointed to the cool movie) or you can build your website to promote anything you choose.
You can even use it as a gateway page for another domain because it has URL forwarding!
At any rate, so far it's the best affiliate program that I've found on the web and I'm loving it. You can check it out yourself at my website in my profile.

Gayle

I agree Gayle. I use my website for my personal and business use. To promote GDI to others I include an Advertising Banner (just like .COM websites) that refer others to get more info regarding GDI. In this MLM business there is only 1 product (no inventory of useless stuff). A very useful product if you are paying a lot for a current web site or don't have one. And free virtual domain sites don't count.
My dad is also a GDI member and uses his website in regards to his genealogy hobby and to promote his businesses including his eBay Store.
As with any business, you should evaluate the product to see if its right for you. If its right for you then you should feel that it would be of value to others. As an affiliate you get a small commission for the referrals.
Its no different really than referring others to non-internet businesses. If you find a good deal at your local retailer and you tell someone about it and they go to that retailer to shop - then how much is the check that retailer sends to you? answer: $0.00.
If you refer someone to a doctor that you liked -- how much does that doctor send to you for the referral?
Other companies do affiliate programs too, where they pay you a commission based on the sale to a buyer who got there from your website. Check out fatwallet, clickbank, amazon, etc websites for lists and/or examples.
GDI is no different. People just like labeling everything "Pymarid" and don't even know what they're talking about. (used loosely American business is just one big pymarid and you're the little guy at the bottom). If you like paying "the man" instead of being "the man" then go buy a domain from godaddy or any other domain reseller and then pay "the man" for a high-dollar web-hosting package. C' Ya!

Hope this puts it in perspective for you!

-Joe

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I agree Gayle. I use my website for my personal and business use. To promote GDI to others I include an Advertising Banner (just like .COM websites) that refer others to get more info regarding GDI. In this MLM business there is only 1 product (no inventory of useless stuff). A very useful product if you are paying a lot for a current web site or don't have one. And free virtual domain sites don't count.
My dad is also a GDI member and uses his website in regards to his genealogy hobby and to promote his businesses including his eBay Store.
As with any business, you should evaluate the product to see if its right for you. If its right for you then you should feel that it would be of value to others. As an affiliate you get a small commission for the referrals.
Its no different really than referring others to non-internet businesses. If you find a good deal at your local retailer and you tell someone about it and they go to that retailer to shop - then how much is the check that retailer sends to you? answer: $0.00.
If you refer someone to a doctor that you liked -- how much does that doctor send to you for the referral?
Other companies do affiliate programs too, where they pay you a commission based on the sale to a buyer who got there from your website. Check out fatwallet, clickbank, amazon, etc websites for lists and/or examples.
GDI is no different. People just like labeling everything "Pymarid" and don't even know what they're talking about. (used loosely American business is just one big pymarid and you're the little guy at the bottom). If you like paying "the man" instead of being "the man" then go buy a domain from godaddy or any other domain reseller and then pay "the man" for a high-dollar web-hosting package. C' Ya!

Hope this puts it in perspective for you!

-Joe

Unless I'm selling something on the web, why would I need my own domain name and web address? IOW, if I don't have a business to promote, why join GDI?

Joe, can I ask how long you've been with GDI and what type of income is it making for you from referrals?

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Global Domains International seems to be a popular "starter" program, especially for people residing outside of the U.S. Signing up is free and the monthly cost is only $10.

I've never been an affiliate, but I'd written a pretty detailed analysis of Global Domains International (GDI), covering both the pros and cons of the program.

I'd never heard anyone mention is in relation to being a scam, etc. However, I found that the BBB had revoked their membership, which I found pretty interesting.

Click here for the Global Domains International Review

By the way, if any successful GDI reps are reading this - and you've been with the company a minimum of one year, please contact me for an interview.

Warm regards,

Debbi Bressler, Editor

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When people are "signed up" in a business and there is no product moved or sold then that is defined as a pyramid. An MLM is legal if they have specific products for the end consumer to purchase.

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Unless I'm selling something on the web, why would I need my own domain name and web address? IOW, if I don't have a business to promote, why join GDI?

Let's say you have a family... you can register your last name as your .ws domain name and create an email address like this: firstname @lastname.ws now you can create up to 10 email addresses so you can create one for every member of your family. Why is this useful? Well… you can tell your relative and friends your email address and they don't have to write it down. if they know your name, they'll instinctively know where to reach you and never lose your email address.

Now you can recommend your relatives and friends to do the same and refer them to the opportunity so GDI becomes your business and soon enough, your email addresses/domain name becomes free or you can eventually get monthly checks for using it.

I really like the way this company is setup.

check this new video, it pretty much cover everything.

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hello... i check the site of GDI and it interest me, may i know how many members this company have these year 2006? and i like to know when this company started.

thank you in advance :cheesy:

PS. sorry for editing ^^

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I do not know exactly how many customers they have but I would assume that there are MANY :)

GDI was listed in Inc. Magazine's "Inc 500 List for 2002": America's Fastest Growing Private Companies. GDI ranked #37 (Thirty-Seven!) out of 500 for the USA nationally, and #5in the state of California!

It all started in 1999 so they've been around for more than 6 years!

In the two years since WebSite.ws launched, close to 200,000 .WS domains have been registered in over 180 countries worldwide making the initial sale of 150,000 .WS website domain names faster on a percentage basis than .com domains.

They recently launched a DVD to help people promote it offline and it's very good. Check this site for the complete video of the DVD and testimonials:
http://www.freedom.ws/mlmopportunity

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I just joined. I think it is not a scam, you are not buying air, but a domain and webhosting and support. If you bring in new customers you get paid. Only problem is to start getting members to start there as your sponsor. Could we perhaps put up a chain of people registering ? If you register using my account website.ws/arjan2 and post your id as a reply the next one to register can use you as a sponsor. If the link is not broken everybody will start with 5 downliners !!! (= 5 $)
I allready have 1 and started yesterday...

The first 7 days are free of charge so you can allways quit if it does not work...

I don't intend to get rich, but I intend to have a free domain with my name (arjan) and some money a month, say 20$...

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you are definately right. this is not a get rich program. I wish I could have
found something like this in my teens, twenties or thirties. But Global Domain
International did not exist back then.The internet was hardly thought of because
I'm 50 now,

Have no idea how old you are I joined GDI. Nov. 5th of last year, and I am already
in the profit.It's an easy program to promote, it appeals to folks of all ages.
And I know this business is not a scam. I don't know if you have read the .ws
story.

What got me this just didn't sound like hype.
It sounded like something that could happen to me.
I don't see this company not being here as long as the internet is here.

Think about it, if you want to be on the internet, you need a website with
a program you can trust that will be there.

Try getting any name with .com it's almost impossible to get anything that
makes scense.

thanks for your reply.
I look forward to talking with you again.

Thanks
Roger

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I am 35 now. Allways curious to see if you could actually make money on the internet. Lost some money too unfortunately... I have sent out some paid emails and do have 5 downliners now in one week. Have to see if they stick of course...

Do you promote it in other ways ?

Sorry for the late reply

Regards

Arjan

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I think this is actually a pretty good opportunity from what I've read. Is there a credit card required for this? I'm only 14 but it sounds like a good idea. I could use some extra cash.

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Yep, you need American Express, Discover, MasterCard, or Visa. So that might be a problem. Payout is via mailcheck , bankwire of Paypal.

So if you would like to join you have to speak to someone that has a credit card. You can allways cancel your account, the first 7 days are trial so within that time you do not need to pay anything and can cancel without making costs..

Thanks for the interest

Arjan

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Ok, well, I read your website for GDI. Do we get a website that looks like that and only that? Can we make it whatever we want? Do we have to have that same layout and color pattern? I really don't like that idea, because I just wanted to make my own website, but also promote GDI at the same time.

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You can have your website whatever you want. I still need to create my own one here....

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You still haven't made your website yet? Then what is that site that is promoting your link? Do you know how many people have joined GDI?

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You still haven't made your website yet? Then what is that site that is promoting your link? Do you know how many people have joined GDI?

That is an easy website you can create with their easy software. It is mine, but it is not the site that will be there forever. I just use it now to promote them, to explain it simple. I don't believe in the get rich in a few weeks and used this website in paid mails. Thought people would rather read that then start on the get rich page from website.ws. Of course it is possible to get rich if you get a lot of people to sign up.

I don't know how many people joined, company exists since 1999 I think...

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Hi, I've visited the website and think this is a good opportunity. If I only can get 2 people to signup I allready make 62$ a month. I've just signed up.

If other people also like the idea of a signup chain, go to the other post on Global Domains Affiliate sign up chain and please sign up via my username.... If we can get the chain going we will all have 5 downliners giving us 5$ a month to start with....

Thanks

Sheshan

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Hi, I've visited the website and think this is a good opportunity. If I only can get 2 people to signup I allready make 62$ a month. I've just signed up.

If other people also like the idea of a signup chain, go to the other post on Global Domains Affiliate sign up chain and please sign up via my username.... If we can get the chain going we will all have 5 downliners giving us 5$ a month to start with....

Thanks

Sheshan

Here's some interesting info on this company!
GB

BBB Reliability Report

WebSite.ws
701 Palomar Airport Rd #300
Carlsbad, CA 92009

General Information:
Original Business Start Date: August 2001
Local Business Start Date: November 1999
Type of Entity: Corporation
Principal : Mr Jon Bailey Director of Operations
Phone Number: (760) 602-3000
Fax Number: (760) 602-3099
BBB Membership: This company is not a member
Type-of-Business Classification: Internet Services
Website Address: www.website.ws

The information in this report has either been provided by the company, or has been compiled by the Bureau from other sources.

BBB Membership:


On April 20, 2005 this company's membership in the BBB was revoked by the BBB's Board of Directors due to failure to cooperate with the BBB on advertising matters.


Nature of Business

This Company offers website services and products including domain registration. Recently the company has begun offering a multi-level marketing program that encourages people to invite everyone they personally know with an automated email invitation system to participate in the program that consists of purchasing a .ws registration from the company for $10 a month. From there, anybody who responds to the email and also participates in the program, the originator of the email is to be paid a commission.

Customer Experience:


Based on BBB files, this company has an unsatisfactory record with the Bureau due to unanswered complaint(s). The company has resolved most complaint(s) presented by the Bureau; however, the Bureau did not receive a response to other complaint(s). Recent complaints are with regards to the free trial offer of a website domain. Consumers are stating that they attempt to cancel after the free trial offer and they are unable to do so. They claim that they continue to be charged for the service.

When evaluating complaint information, please consider the company's size and volume of business. The number of complaints filed against the company may not be as important as the type of complaints and how the company handled them.

Closed Complaints:


Number of complaints processed by the BBB in last 36 Months: 10
Number of complaints processed by the BBB in last 12 months: 2

Complaints Concerned:


Repair or Service Issues: 1
Outcome of the complaint -
Resolved: 1

Refund or Exchange Issues: 2
Outcome of all complaints -
Resolved: 2

Customer Service Issues: 6
Outcome of all complaints -
Resolved: 6

Credit or Billing Issues: 1
Outcome of the complaint -
Company did not respond: 1

Additional Information:


Additional Doing-Business-As Names: GDI
Global Domains International
Additional TOB Classifications: Internet Servers
Internet Web Design

Company Management:


Additional company management personnel include:
Mr Alan Ezeir President
Mr Michael Reed CEO

Company Advertising:


This company is currently offering a multi-level marketing program and they are advertising income claims including "Earning Quiet Fortunes From Home", "BUILD YOUR INCOME FOR LIFE", "have the financial independence", "a reliable, LIFELONG MONTHLY INCOME ", "Unlimited Income Potential", etc. The company has not provided substantiation for these claims or shown that these claims can be met by the average consumer joining their program.

Report as of 06/29/2005


Copyright 2005 Better Business Bureau of San Diego

As a matter of policy, the Better Business Bureau does not endorse any product, service or company. BBB reports generally cover a three-year reporting period, and are provided solely to assist you in exercising your own best judgment. Information contained herein is believed reliable but not guaranteed as to accuracy. Reports are subject to change at any time.

The Better Business Bureau reports on members and non-members. Membership in the BBB is voluntary, and members must meet and maintain BBB standards. If a company is a member of this BBB, it is stated in this report.