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Does Back linking really worth over page rank ?

Here is one live example i have one campaign going on for that particular campaign i have made one review site...my domain is 1 year old where i have put review on that particular product...and i am targeting one keyword which has more than 2 lakhs search in google.


Here are few quick stats for first 5 sites which are on top for these kewword.

1st position

PR-1
google page index:275
yahoo page index:17
yahoo linkdomain:12,124
domain age: 2007


2nd position
PR-1
google page index:244
yahoo page index:122
yahoo linkdomain:125
domain age: no match found (I am using seo quak to see this data)

3rd position
PR-2
google page index:132
yahoo page index:15
yahoo linkdomain:192
domain age : no match found

4rth position
PR-4
google page index:86
yahoo page index:30
yahoo linkdomain:1203
domain age : 1998

5th position
PR-0
google page index:5840
yahoo page index:312
yahoo linkdomain:35,276
age: 2007

My Stats
PR-0
google page index:167
yahoo page index:102
yahoo linkdomain:566
age: 2008

Here are few question based on this real data

1. what is more important in google search results?
page rank or backlinking ?

2. people says backlinking is key to break any competition as I can see on 5th position has more backlinks then 1st position still its on 5th place then what are key factors which are really working to put 5th site on fifth place instead of 1st place ?

3. Does Website age matter while creating backlinks ?

4. How many backlinks are good for one day...lets says few people stats they are making 100's of backlink per day but few people says only 30 to 50 backlinks work well ? what is your practical experiece says..


I am expecting some real help instead of guess work so please answer this thread if you have some real experience so newbie can really learn from your experience

Hope this is going to be a good helping thread for others too.

Thanks for your time.
Rajiv

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Short answer: backlinks still matter, but raw PageRank numbers and raw link counts are the wrong things to obsess over. Google retired the public Toolbar PageRank years ago, so that visible PR score isn’t a live signal you can improve — links remain a ranking input, but they’re only one of many signals. (searchengineland.com)

Why your snapshot shows sites with more links ranking lower: search ranking is multi‑factor. Relevance of the page for the exact query, on‑page quality (E‑E‑A‑T), technical health, internal linking, user behavior, and the quality/context of each backlink (in‑body vs footer, topical fit, anchor text, referring domain diversity) all matter. In other words, a single contextual editorial link from a topical authority often outranks hundreds of low‑value links. Also note Google’s changes to how it treats link attributes (nofollow/sponsored/ugc) — these are now “hints,” not absolute on/off switches. (seobythesea.com)

Domain age is not a magic boost; recent comments from Google staff and analysis show age by itself gives no ranking advantage. There’s no safe “X links per day” rule either — unnatural spikes look suspicious. Practical data shows top pages tend to grow referring domains steadily (roughly single‑digit to low‑double‑digit percent monthly), so goalposts move as competitors earn links. Focus on natural, earned growth. (seroundtable.com)

Practical next steps (short checklist):

  • fix on‑page relevance for your target keyword and strengthen E‑E‑A‑T;
  • tidy internal linking to pass authority to the landing page;
  • earn a few contextual editorial links from relevant sites (outreach, resource pages, guest posts, PR);
  • monitor backlinks in Search Console + an external tool;
  • avoid buying or automated link schemes — those violate Google’s guidelines and risk action. (developers.google.com)

Tying back to forum comments: ’s emphasis on content/internal linking is solid; was right to stress link source over raw counts. For , measure referring domains and on‑page relevance rather than chasing PR numbers.

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Member Avatar for canadafred

Don't waste your energy trying to figure out the best way to manipulate your off-site ranking factors. Incoming links will grow naturally or they won't. It doesn't really matter when you are focused on working your own content. Concentrate on what's in your control, your web pages; their content and the optimizable webpage components. As far as linking is concerned, focus on internally linking your pages (more valuable than incoming links both ranking wise and PR wise). You are in a position (because you have several sites) to do some nifty network linking (cross-linking). Work your own stuff, the heck with trying to empower your pages externally.

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thanks for the reply my friend but still I want to understand how we can get page rank and how backlinks works ..please share your experience if i have new domain then what is the fastest way to get page rank and what is simplest way to get backlinking...
thanks for your time.
Rajiv

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thanks for the reply my friend but still I want to understand how we can get page rank and how backlinks works ..please share your experience if i have new domain then what is the fastest way to get page rank and what is simplest way to get backlinking...
thanks for your time.
Rajiv

Seeking Pagerank is a pointless pursuit. Seek rankings! New web site landing page can get out of the sandbox in a couple of months a PR4, with 0 backlinks.

Fastest way to get backlinks? You're doing it now. Google will assess your signature within a couple of hours of posting in this forum.

Edited by canadafred because: clarification
Member Avatar for Nichetraffic

It's not just the number of backlinks that matters, it's where those links are coming from. If your backlinks are from low PR sites and are forum signatures and things like that, it will not carry as much clout as from within the body of a high PR authority site

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It's not just the number of backlinks that matters, it's where those links are coming from. If your backlinks are from low PR sites and are forum signatures and things like that, it will not carry as much clout as from within the body of a high PR authority site

When a hyperlink appears from a signature it can have value, not much, but some. The second time OK, still some value. Third time. .. the value dilutes to near nothingness (maybe after 10). So if a web page has some 1200 signature links from the same forum they are not of any value search engine wise. They become of value only to the Internet visitor, well, they can be of value and should be if the original intent of signatures was honoured.

But for the question of speed, 2 hours is pretty quick to get recognized and processed by the search engine. Is there faster ways to get a link assessed, probably but I haven't seen it.

Edited by canadafred because: spelling
Member Avatar for marissa jasmine

Does Back linking really worth over page rank ?

Here is one live example i have one campaign going on for that particular campaign i have made one review site...my domain is 1 year old where i have put review on that particular product...and i am targeting one keyword which has more than 2 lakhs search in google.


Here are few quick stats for first 5 sites which are on top for these kewword.

1st position

PR-1
google page index:275
yahoo page index:17
yahoo linkdomain:12,124
domain age: 2007


2nd position
PR-1
google page index:244
yahoo page index:122
yahoo linkdomain:125
domain age: no match found (I am using seo quak to see this data)

3rd position
PR-2
google page index:132
yahoo page index:15
yahoo linkdomain:192
domain age : no match found

4rth position
PR-4
google page index:86
yahoo page index:30
yahoo linkdomain:1203
domain age : 1998

5th position
PR-0
google page index:5840
yahoo page index:312
yahoo linkdomain:35,276
age: 2007

My Stats
PR-0
google page index:167
yahoo page index:102
yahoo linkdomain:566
age: 2008

Here are few question based on this real data

1. what is more important in google search results?
page rank or backlinking ?

2. people says backlinking is key to break any competition as I can see on 5th position has more backlinks then 1st position still its on 5th place then what are key factors which are really working to put 5th site on fifth place instead of 1st place ?

3. Does Website age matter while creating backlinks ?

4. How many backlinks are good for one day...lets says few people stats they are making 100's of backlink per day but few people says only 30 to 50 backlinks work well ? what is your practical experiece says..


I am expecting some real help instead of guess work so please answer this thread if you have some real experience so newbie can really learn from your experience

Hope this is going to be a good helping thread for others too.

Thanks for your time.
Rajiv

I think backlinks is more important to increase traffic and it will get a good PR in search engine ...
Backlinks was successful with a right techniques ...

Thanks

Member Avatar for vishenda

I agree. There's no way we can learn how google rank our website. Or if we know it, they will change there algorithm.

Member Avatar for rajivkumar900

Seeking Pagerank is a pointless pursuit. Seek rankings! New web site landing page can get out of the sandbox in a couple of months a PR4, with 0 backlinks.

Fastest way to get backlinks? You're doing it now. Google will assess your signature within a couple of hours of posting in this forum.

as you said due to signature here i am getting, i heard daniweb is no follow ...so how google will count signature backlink here...every link is no follow tag here...this is something i heard ..i dont know whether its fact or not..please clear.

Member Avatar for canadafred

as you said due to signature here i am getting, i heard daniweb is no follow ...so how google will count signature backlink here...every link is no follow tag here...this is something i heard ..i dont know whether its fact or not..please clear.

Ya it seems to be nofollow. Good eye but that doesn't matter; signature links are still available in a keyphrase search therefore indicating they have been awarded value, somehow in spite of the nofollow attribute.

Member Avatar for dailyearner

of course backlinks are very important in raning in google
some website do the same seo work
then backlinks is the most imprtant thing you should do to compete

Member Avatar for InsightsDigital

Be careful where you park!!!

Member Avatar for julicami

Pagerank can be take in consideration to get better rankings if 2 or more websites are pointing to the same principal keyword exactly. When we find first a website with less pagerank that the others is because the others have the keyword as secondary keyword not as principal.

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