I posted a while back about the fact i coudnt accses any microsoft pages through either of the above browsers which i still cant but i have also discovered this also means i cant use auto update or gain accses to the webpages to manually download updates. i am all out of ideas i have tried everything to fix this and am now thinking it might be something more sinister than a browser problem any ideas?? Oh im using windows xp pro with SP2 over a wireless connection. Any help would seriously please me!!