Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

I saw no mention there that rellie1977 actually has a Windows CD there, people. I try not to jump to conclusions straight off ;)

A quick edit to 'boot.ini' might be all that's needed here!

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

eerrr.... uummm......

Is Windows Me actually ON the drive or is it just reporting the option at boot up? If there aren't two Windows folders, it's not on there and there's no need to format.

A simple file edit would be all that's necessary in that event!

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

Somewhere in your BIOS setup menus there will be a setting for "Case Alarm" or similar. If you disable the setting, you'll no longer get the message.

Including details of the make/model of your motherboard, or the make/model of your PC if it's a 'name-brand' one, will help us to determine clearer details of how to correct it.

Yzk commented: are you a pro? :) -Yzk +18
Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

caperjack and crunchie.

You fellas have got it covered quite a bit more comprehensively than I did when I put together the 'Sticky' at top of page about 'Helping Youself'.

Would you consider adding the bits I've missed out on to that topic? It would only need a simple link to one spot then, to cover these situations.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

The Files and settings transfer wizard is not designed for the purpose you're trying to put it to.

It's for transferring your settings and data to a different computer you intend to use Windows XP on, and which you intend to use as a replacement system.


You'll find a very good guide to setting up and using DCC at the link I've provided in this article:

http://www.pcuser.com.au/pcuser/hs2.nsf/web/661725D4C744FCFFCA256E720018B86F

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

Hi nik,

If you use the 'Search' function to look for topics about 'svchost.exe' I'm sure you'll find quite a number of discussions that may prove relevent to you. Please read them and if you still have not found a solution then start a separate thread for your problem.

Pigy-backing questions on the end of an earlier discussion can lead to confusion, rather than the assistance you're seeking.

Welcome to TechTalk, by the way!

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

moral, please start a new topic for separate questions.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

It most certainly will NOT boot without a processor fitted.

Are you absolutely certain that the RAM and display card slots are clean, and that the components also have clean connectors and are firmly and fully inserted?

If that's the case, and you've also checked that those components work fine, and that your monitor and monitor cable are also in good order, then yep! Either a dud ppppower unit, a dud processor or a dud motherboard. If you haven't got another system to swap 'n' change components with for checking, then it's off to the repair shop it seems.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

Remove or disconnect everything in the system case except processor and fan, RAM, and display card. That means all drives etc disconnected! Hook up to your monitor and power up. See if you get to the POST screens, and report back with the results please.

There are too many possible causes to troubleshoot without cutting back to a 'bare-bones' system.

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Please do NOT leave your email details in this topic expecting a driver to be sent to you.

The offer to send a driver was made once, quite some time back. Leaving your email address in public view on a website is not a wise paractice.

If you scroll back to member caperjack's comment, you'll find a link to a website from where you can download a suitable driver for the purpose.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

I'm really curious about that 'Marsupial Moderator' thing too.


you see, I'm from Aus, and his location says he's from CA, so I'm a bit puzzled.

He can't be a possum 'cause he'd have to be an opossum, and that just don't flow off the tongue the right way. Got me beat, for sure! :D
There's also this thing called a 'Super Moderator', but I don't reckon we must have any of those, because if we did we wouldn't have that terrible 'laughing' smilie now, would we? We'd have a better one for sure!


Let me know if the truth of it all ever comes out now, won't you? :lol:

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

Well that's welcome news!

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

From what I can tell, the card can't be used in the way you want to use it. It needs drivers loaded in Windows to work, and can't operate as a boot device.

It would be a better setup anyway to have Windows 98 installed on your smaller drive, and use the new one for storage. You could even move 'My Documents' and your program folders to it, should you choose to do so.

I'd be splitting your 8.4Gb drive into a 2Gb partition for Windows, and a 6Gb partition for programs, and using the new larger drive for data storage.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

The utility program you'll find at the link provided is called MaxBlast3, which is a more recent version of the form of software solution you refer to, which I've not heard such problems reported in relation to.

I'm unsure about your hardware solution. If you disable the onboard IDE channels in BIOS setup does the drive then show up? Windows 98 is certainly intended to reside on drive C:

Have you a model number there for your add-in controller?

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

Quantum sold their hard drive division to Maxtor some time back, and Maxtor now provide support for the drives.


You've gone to extremes buying that controller to sort out your problem, as all you needed was a downloadable software utility to 'break' the drive size barrier imposed by BIOS. The utility you should use is the one provided by Maxtor, which you'll find at:

http://www.maxtor.com/portal/site/Maxtor/?epi_menuItemID=3c67e325e0a6b1f6294198b091346068&epi_menuID=976d37cd478c5826433f226075b46068&epi_baseMenuID=976d37cd478c5826433f226075b46068&channelpath=/en_us/Support/Software%20Downloads/ATA%20Hard%20Drives&downloadID=57

Please read the information on the download page, and all included instructions before you use it.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

Good to hear it's all working well, and thanks for letting us know how the problem was solved. It's always good to hear that, particularly when it turns out to be something unexpected or out of the ordinary, as this has.

I'll mark your question as 'solved'.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

That's an Intel i450 chipset motherboard in the system you mention. The manufacturer no longer lists any drivers available for download, but Intel's website should have motherboard chipset drivers available for download which would be suitable to use.

Before giving a link however, does anyone here know if Windows 98 contains native support for the chipset?


(By the way, i hope you don't mind but I edited your report to remove the entry for your Windows 98 Product CD key. You shouldn't really be showing it publically, and I'm sure you weren't aware that it was there.)

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

I'll close the topic off for you. that way there won't be any more remarks posted in it, and you'll still be able to leave email notification enabled for future topics you post (or post in).

Perhaps the best way to go is to indicate that the matter has been resolved (in the thread concerned) so we know to close it off.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

Download and install Belarc Advisor:

http://www.belarc.com/download

The report it gives will most likely indicate the make and model of your motherboard, and perhaps other components as well.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

Close all open applications and then open a command prompt (to do this select Run from the Start menu) and in the Open: box type:

regsvr32 /s urlmon.dll

You don't have to restart the computer afterwards.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

Suze, the drivers I was particularly referring to are your motherboard chipset drivers, which show up as 'System Devices' in Device Manager.

If your motherboard has a chipset which was released after Windows 98, your Windows installation may be using older, generic drivers to enable the various internal components to communicate with each other, rather than the manufacturer provided ones which are designed to enable that to happen more efficiently. If this is the case, your system performance could be hampered significantly.


If the system you refer to is a 'Name Brand' one such as a Dell, Gateway, Compaq etc, then you need to search the manufacturers website download area for the drivers for your particular model.

If the system is a 'White box' style, assembled locally, then you need to identify the make and model of the motherboard, and obtain the necessary drivers from the motherboard manufacturer's website.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

If your system is now slower than it was before it's quite possible you've neglected to load the device drivers it needs.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

The sasser worm is quite recent. If Norton wasn't updated regularly, the virus signature files wouldn't have identified it.

Is Norton configured to automatically update on his system, and is the subscription up to date and current? If it's an old version that came 'bundled' with his system , for example, it may well be out of date, and quite useless.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

Have you any idea what your motherboard details are? If you give me an indication of the make and model of the motherboard, I can easily find a link to the relevent drivers for you.

Unfortunately if you've actually omitted to install them, and Windows hasn't installed a 'generic' driver, then you've later installed the display card driver, things can be a bit 'messy'. Under these circumstances, it's best to format and start over fresh, installing the motherboard chipset drivers before any others.

For now though, Right-click 'My Computer' and choose 'Properties'. On the Hardware tab, bring up 'Device Manager'. Expand the section denoted 'System Devices' and see if there's an entry there such as "PCI to AGP bridge' or similar. If there isn't, you've got problems for sure!


Download and install Belarc Advisor www.belarc.com/download and run it to see if the report identifies the make and model of your motherboard. Alternatively use a different tool such as SiSoft Sandra to identify it with. Alternatively, open up the system case and see if there is any identification printed on the motherboard.

Report it back when you know more.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

An unusual problem you had there. I've not seen nVidia driver corruption cause this particular behaviour before. Thanks for posting the details of how you resolved the matter.

I'll mark this topic as 'solved'.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

I doubt very much that her "graphics card has gone kabluie".

I think it's much more likely that she's inadvertantly changed settings and instructed Windows to use a different display adaptor driver. She's most likely changed the setting to 'Standard VGA Adpator'.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

Your reference to the problem occuring when a game starts makes me suspect that you've forgotten to install the motherboard chipset drivers. Without them, even though you have your didplay drivers installed there'll be no AGP 'bridge' in operation. 2D will work fine, but as soon as a call is made to a 3D function, the system will crash.

Don't rule out a memory problem however. If that 512Mb is a single, unbranded module, or even worse two unbranded 'generic' modules from different manufacturers, you may have a compatibility problem with your motherboard. With onboard GeForce2 display circuitry, that's an nForce1 chipset motherboard you have there, and those are particularly 'touchy' from the reports I've seen. Make sure your BIOS is updated to the most recent version for your board.

If you do have two mis-matched memory modules, and you've eliminated the chipset driver possibility, try using just a single memory module in Slot1 to see if that improves stability.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

I got the FDISK.exe program from a Win ME Rescue Disk...haven't figured out how to make the same type of disk in Win XP. Any ideas? OK, so, I'm going to take your advice and clear the new drive completely with DriveScrubber and start over again..........

You don't need a disk like that for Windows XP. Just use the CD. Boot from it, and the install routine has an inbuilt partitioning capability.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

I'd bet this instance is a driver issue now

That sounds like a wager to me, rather than a definitive statement.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

I disagree with the 'Blaster' diagnosis.


I've dealt with the exact same problem, exact same modem previously, before MSBlast was around. It was a driver issue then, and I'd bet this instance is a driver issue now!

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

Whichever modem/router you choose, replace your existing modem with it.

USB ADSL modems are a second-best solution, by a long margin. :)

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

Well golly gee, TallCool1, that post just got you to 666.

Your next comment will designate you "The Neighbour of the Beast!!"

I'd agree with modem drivers as a possible cause. But I'd check for Spyware and Malware also.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

You borrowed a copy off a friend! :eek: Look out in 30 days time!

But seriously, this trend towards including the installation files on a hidden partition is insidious. At the very least, a 'Recovery CD' should be provided, in case of drive failure or viral corruption.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

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