Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

The process of reinstalling XP over the top of itself creates the multi-boot menu and structure.

Reinstalling 98 over the top of itself reapirs any potential problems which may arise because drive letters have changed. These two Windows versions treat drive letters in different ways.

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Voted AMD. For my reasoning see my comments in your other topic
http://www.daniweb.com/techtalkforums/thread23926.html

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That 4000+ is $AU725. The 3500+ (Venice core) is $AU405 (or cheaper if you shop around) and is the equivalent performer of the 3.4GHz Pentium you mention, which itself is $AU579

The 4000+ should cream both those Pentiums in just about any task you put it to, because it is a more highly rated chip than the 3.6Ghz Pentium.

You might get a slight performance improvement from the Pentium(s) with rendering, because that task will take advantage of the hyperthreading capability of the Pentium. You'd need to throw a 4GHz Pentium at me before I'd be prepared to concede that it was a better choice for anything really. The Athlon64 chips are considerably better at most tasks, perfectly adequate at the tasks Pentium is reputed to be better at, runs cooler and is cheaper.

My advice would be to get it and save the extra money for the components in your PC that actually do the work. There is FAR too much emphasis placed on the processor in today's PCs. Using finances wisely to maximise the other components in the system brings much more functionality.

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Athlon64 single core processors are only a bee's whisker behind equivalent single core Pentium processors for performance in such tasks. With the upcoming dual-core processors, the AMD will be better.

No, AMD64 is not 'just for gaming'.

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Hi harindad, and welcome to Daniweb. If you read the stickied 'Welcome' topic in the Introductions section you'll find out more about posting here.

As you'll see, we encourage people to post technical questions in the relevent forum section, rather than the Introductions section. I'll move this thread there for you.

Cheers

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err... uumm....

You should be able to log in to Hotmail and to visit your previous homepage using Mozilla. In fact, if you installed Mozilla correctly the 'Favourites' should have been retained in your Bookmarks list.

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Moved to Windows XP forum section

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Rthless, put the second drive in the system and ensure it is correctly configured as a secondary drive. Then perform a Refresh Install of Windows XP on the second drive and the multi-boot structure should be created for you. Make sure you choose to install to the partition where your additional installation of XP currently resides.

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Rthlss, this is an old topic which has dropped down the list because it is now quite dated in the information it provides. Please don't revive suvch old topics unless there is specifically something relevent to add to them.

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That sounds like it may be a hardware issue other than a hard drive one. If it was simply a failed hard drive the system would still POST, but most likely get stuck at the 'Operating system not found' stage.

Might be an idea to get the system checked by a technician.

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Assuming you've already identified and removed all the intruders on your system, you could perform a refresh install of Windows to fix any damage that has resulted.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315341&Product=winxp

Note: you will most likely need to reinstall Windows updates afterwards.

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Thank you for reporting back on that. Trying to run the monitor from a modem is, of course, not something we'd envisage as a probable cause of your difficulties! :D

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No need to be facetious. What did you expect? You asked a question and it was answered. A fan is a mechanical component. When it wears out and becomes noisy it needs to be replaced. Any other 'tricks' to quieten it down are only stop-gaps which make it slightly longer before the fan falls to bits!

We can't hand out magic potions.

If you suspect the noise might not be the fan, open the system case, turn the PC on and check.

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Use the Command prompt from the start menu, not the run box. Does that work?

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Replace the fan with a newer and quieter one, of course.

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Either that or there is dust on the vanes of the fan, causing them to be out of balance. Clean them if there is.

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  1. Click Start, Run. In the Run box, type cmd.
  2. Type the following at the command prompt. Hit Enter after each line:
    cd\windows
    copy regedit.exe regedit.com
    start regedit.com [or regedit.com]
  3. Open the registry editor and go to the following key: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shell\open\command.
  4. Double-click the (Default) value in the right pane.
  5. Delete the value data shown, and type: "%1" %*" in the Value Data field. Include the quotes.
  6. Close the Registry Editor.
  7. Restart Windows.

See how that helps. It should get your programs back with a bit of luck.

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Thanks lol......dont think i need ethical lessons on aquirying my software, i ask for advise on a non booting disc......not where to shop lol.

Cheers :p

Nothing to do with ethical lessons, simply to do with forum rules. If the Windows CD is legitimate then we can offer assistance. If it is pirated then forum rules forbid assistance being given.

my copy as far as i know is legitimate.

JANINE, it's either a genuine Microsoft Windows CD or it's not. Any copied Windows CD is illicit. No ifs or buts about it.

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Then I can oly assume that you've installed a poorly copied illicit instance of XP Pro corporate edition, which is not actually a bootable CD. Autorun is a different thing altogether to Bootable. A genuine Windows XP Corporate is definitely bootable.

Please don't ask here for assistance with illegally obtained software.

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I don't see the point of going to all the trouble of a delicate and potentially dangerous (if you make mistakes) procedure just to recover a megabyte or two of drive space, but if you really want to do this:

Follow EXACTLY the procedures outlined in this article http://www.activewin.com/tips/tips/microsoft/winxp/advanced/8.shtml

The procedures relating to renaming folders should be followed for all user accounts on the system. Files and folders can be deleted after the renaming steps have been carried out.

Lot of trouble for a negligible result, in my opinion.

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No. If the presence of Outlook Express leaves you short of drive space then your hard drive isn't big enough to use with Windows XP.

The only way to really remove it is to purchase and use XPLite, and choose to remove OE through that. But simply don't use it is the best alternative. Lack of room means you need more drive space, not you need to remove system components ;)

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

Do you mean you already have XP loaded? If so, why are you trying to install another version?

By the way, that 'Press a key...' message is a BIOS one. The different CD should make no difference. Check the boot order settings in BIOS setup. Disable other boot options if necessary. The message will definitely be there but your BIOS setup configuration may be causing it to be bypassed.

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We can only advise you on removing the spyware. Forum rules forbid assistance being given regarding using the file sharing software.

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You need to watch the screen during bootup and press a key when prompted to boot from CD.

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Yeah AMD is the best for gaming but mostly not in other usage. If you use your PC for games most of the time you might want to buy from AMD.

That's not a very good indication of relative uses. The AMD64 chips outperform Intel processors of equivalent model in every respect, basically, other than those uses which can draw from the benefit of 'Hyperthreading'. Not all computing tasks actually benefit from that feature.

With the advent of the upcoming dual-core processor models, where the hyperthreading feature is no longer present, the architecture of the AMD64 will give a processor which outperforms equivalent Intel chips in all tasks. At that point in time AMD processors will be the clear leaders in budget, mid-range, performance and server apllications of all types.

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Childish 'flaming' is as unwelcome here as is piracy talk/assistance.

There has been no suggestion that sunandoghosh is actually downloading illicit material. Bitorrent can be and is used for legitimate file distribution as well as for piracy. some musical artists etc distribute their product ONLY via Bitorrent.

The rule here exists primarily because we have no way to determine if the use is legitimate or not, and because the prdominance of people use it unlawfully.

In the absence of indications to the contrary, decency would demand that we give the benefit of the doubt to the member who has been somewhat embarassed in this instance, would it not?

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Wouldn't it be better to do the necessary research BEFORE offering advice? :idea:

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That'd be my guess as well. Reloading both the motherboard chipset drivers and the display drivers seems to be in order.

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Got Spybot Search & Destroy installed? Tea timer is Spybot's monitoring utility.

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There is no reason NOT to get a 64-bit capable PC at present. Most high-end desktop processors are enabled for 64-bit. Both AMD and Intel processors, in the higher models, have the capability.

Windows 64-bit will give no improvement for existing, 32-bit games. But it will give no appreciable performance drop either. See this discussion from Sharkey Extreme for an example:
http://www.sharkeyextreme.com/hardware/cpu/article.php/3261_3484631__10

Specialised software tasks, such as the video editing you mention, will most certainly get a boost from 64-bit computing, but only when suitable software becomes available. For now, using 32-bit Windows is fine. Pick the processor and system for performance, and performance is what you'll get.

If games is your priority, then the best single core Athlon64 processor you can afford is the wisest choice you could make to base a system on, and it can currently be happily partnered by 32-bit Windows.

If the applications processing is your priority, it might be better to wait a bit until the Athlon64 X2 dual-core processors reach retail (if you can afford one) as they will give a dramatic improvement with suitably written software. There is currently no processor 'type' or 'niche' for which Intel holds the performance lead over AMD.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

plan for the future definately but bear in mind that 32 bit software will not work on a 64 bit machine. very soon though you'll be able to get hold of 64 bit programs easily. give another 2-3 months and keep your ears and eyes open. start reading pcplus and pcformat magazines more often and keep eyes on the web and media

Please refrain from offering incorrect advice. 32-bit Windows applications will most certainly run on a 64-bit machine when Windows 32-bit is being used, and will also be able to be run when 64-bit Windows is being used.

I'd also give it a much longer timeframe that 2 to 3 months before Windows 64-bit applications are in common use.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

....from here follow the prompts on screen to overwrite any existing o/s's and install winxp pro........

This is only ever a procedure followed if the desire is to perform an 'upgrade' install of Windows XP. Although Microsoft encourages people to 'upgrade' in this way, it is NOT good practice to do so. Loading a new version of Windows over the top of an old one inherits and magnifies any existing problems on the system.

By far the best procedure to follow is to back up data files, wipe the hard drive clean and install Windows XP on a newly created NTFS partition. The installation routine itself enables you to delete existing partition(s) create a new one(s) in its place and the installation will format the partition for uyou when this is done.

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I'd suggest you go back, right-click on the partition you just created and delete it. Then create a partition again only this time make it a Primary partition instead of an Extended partition. A Primary partition is all that you'll need.

When you've done that, check to see if a drive letter is showing for the partition you just created. If not, right-click on the new partition and choose "Change drive letters and paths" and allocate drive letter 'G' to the new partition.

That should fix it I think. You should also be able to right-click on the partition and choose 'format'.

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It was locked because the Forum rules specifically prohibit help being given for p2p software.

Keep it legal
Keep it clean and do not post pornographic material or link to it. In addition, do not post anything warez relaetd or related to other illegal acts. This includes tech support troubleshooting pirated software or P2P programs (i.e. Gnutella, Kazaa) used to obtain pirated software. Exceptions are helping to remove spyware or browser hijacks (that may or may not be related to illegal material) from a computer.

Bitorrent is simply another file sharing software program. The rule is in place because by far the majority of material obtained through use of such programs is illegally obtained and retained. People are acting illegally, in most instances, by downloading music and movies etc. instead of legitimately purchasing them.

We do not help people do this here, and unfortunately that means we also can't help people who are obtaining legitimate material through file sharing networks.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

helloimtim, you must have made mistakes when you tried. installing XP and 2000 Pro as a dual boot should be a straightforward procedure.

A boot manager is not needed for this. The procedure I linked is simply a refresh install followed by editing the boot file. Windows XP already has a multi-boot structure in place as standard. Without a different OS previously being present, however, the only entry in it is the one for XP itself.

The procedure I mentioned will result in a dual-boot choice at startup, and eliminate the need to make changes in BIOS. It will retain installed software and data on the 98 drive and alter any necessary entries in the 98 Registry which indicate drive letters which have changed.

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Enter BIOS setup when you power up. (That's usually done by pressing the Delete key while the memory test is onscreen, but the keypress may be different for your computer. Have a look around in the various menus and find the entries for 'Boot order' or 1st, 2nd etc Boot device. Change it so that CD-ROM is selected as 1st boot device. Pop the Windows Cd in the drive, save and exit from BIOS setup.

Watch the screen while it is rebooting. You will see a message "Press a key to boot from CD-ROM". Do so, and the Computer will boot into the setup routine to allow you to create partitions, format, install Windows etc etc.

It is not good practice to use a 98 boot diskette for installing XP. the 98 boot diskette only allows you to create FAT32 partitions for XP, not the NTFS partitions which XP natively uses.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

Right-click the disk and choose Initialize

Then right-click the unallocated space and choose to create patition(s). NTFS partitions are best if you plan to use the drive only with this PC.

Then format the partitions and, if necessary, allocate drive letters to them.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

This is, as Alex has implied, most likely a conflict created by installed software. A CD burning program is probably telling Windows that the drive is in use. Uninstalling/reinstalling the software should correct the situation. If multiple burning programs are being used, or an incompatible program, you may need to discard some software.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

And that hardware problem, more often than not, usually means faulty RAM or mismatched RAM modules. Do you have two or more modules installed which are different brands? If so, ytry using them one at a time, in RAM slot 1, to see if the machine runs stable.

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Start the PC, boot to windows, then plug the external drive caddy in and see if Windows detects it. It will not be identified as drive D:because if is a removable drive.


Edit: Surely the best way out of your dilemma is to purchase a cheap PC case and transfer the internals of your PC into it. If your current PC case doesn't accodate the number of drives you want, get a case which does.

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You can't John, as the boot files and boot sector just won't be adequately configured. You'll need to reinstall 98 over the top of the installation on your D: drive, following the procedures in the article I linked. Then perform the other modifications mentioned.

Windows is designed in such a way that earlier versions need to be loaded first, and this procedure is designed to get around that limitation.

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This Introductions section is for members to introduce themselves, not for technical questions to be asked and answered. As we have a forum section specifically for Perl I'll move the topic to it.

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

We've asked for a different question to be asked in this topic and that by implication means that we don't want different questions to be answered in the topic. Please provide suggestions related to the new question asked by Daz in the other topic already posted about the same question.

Topic closed!

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That is, of course, if the 'OS CD' is actually a Windows CD and not something else. I'd not heard of regular Windows CDs being distributed with HP PCs.

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Daz, you have an existing topic in the Windows XP section for this specific problem. It's better placed there so please don't cross-post the same problem in different forum sections. This particular topic is in itself mis-placed.

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Catweazle is immortal. Until that bloody big rock hits, anyway :D

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Let the scientists worry about it till the moment it hits I reckon. I sure as shit won't be worrying about it afterwards!

Catweazle 140 Grandad Team Colleague

Checked that keyboard, mouse and all other peripherals are correctly and firmly plugged in?

Opened the case and checked that all plugs and leads are firmly plugged in? This can occur if a lead has worked loose somehow inside the case.

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The price paid for trying to illegally obtain software! No sympathy from this direction, and the best thing to do in that situation is to format, install windows and all (legitimate) software again and learn the lesson!

Don't pirate software! Cracks and downloaded programs often carry hidden 'nasties'!