Posts by canadafred

If I were to set up a signature in a forum completely unrelated to my website will it actually benefit me? I have an odds comparison website and am struggling to find suitable forums to get appropriate backlinks from.

Despite the fad, signature links are of little value even when amassed by the thousands. A few count significantly but after that they get saturated like any other repetitious link.

I'll throw in a couple.

Avoid anything automated, including dynamically generated pages (although those can perform well if properly structured and free from nesting errors, duplicate tags, repetitious descriptions etc.). When I mean automated I'm talking about link dumping systems, cookie-cutter page generation, submission software that sort of thing.

Check and correct spelling, even in meta tags, alt attributes, title attributes. Whether the text is visible to the Internet visitor or not, spell the stuff correctly. Grammar too. Proper grammar is essential not only for the Internet visitor's experience but for the search engine. The search engine will reward webpages that appear to be intelligently crafted. While on the subject of spelling and grammar, don't overuse a keyphrase. Find synonymous ones, alter verb tenses, pluralize things, use antonyms, use the thesaurus, abbreviations, acronyms ... Intelligently produced content implies that it is important. Important content is much easier to rank than your keyphrase competitor's link-puffed-up mediocrity.

...i will kill myself,if not my boss will do that. :(

Holy cow man get a grip. Forget about the competitors backlinks and start paying attention to your own stuff. Catch up to him in the search engine results pages not in the off-site game. Look at your stuff and improve the delivery of evolving optimized content. Fix your internal linking structure. An internal link can be ten times better for you in the results pages than any incoming one. Work your webpages, build outside and crosslink related but completely unique content if you must. Work it and stop crying.

I find that pricing SEO is complicated. Many firms offer one-for all packages. I think custom prices are the way to go, due to differences between business.

Anyone have ideas on how to price SEO?

There are only two things to consider when it comes time to price an SEO project.

1. Ranking webpages at the top of the organic search results regardless of competitiveness of the keyphrase markets.

Note:
This can be accomplished with class and dignity and in the challenge of fair play or you can twist and cheat the search engine into thinking you have important web content (to the extent they’ll take)

2. You have to be able to evolve a search engine marketing campaign when the webpages start squabbling at the top. The webpages have to jump from 6th to 3rd next round. It has nothing to do with PR, it has all to do with getting webpages to the top and then naturally sustaining them and bringing up the rest as best you can.

Note: Again. There is a certain humility that comes from consistently and silently as possible, playing fairly as best you can and still kicking their puffed-up asses down the ladder a couple pages. I personally start feeling sorry for all these SEO people (they consider themselves) stuck in their link scheming ways and feel the numbness of the poor website owner who hasn’t a clue about his web sites are under sneaky search engine manipulating …

Free domain? Try co.cc. It is free.

Oh. now doesn't that sound like it'll rank real good, almost as sweet as a garbagesites.crapsiteoftheuniverse.info subdomain.

Fred, isn't the thought of seeing how you come off in Tagalog worth the attempt to translate? It could turn out like the Bugs Bunny Cartoon where he is stranded on the island and talks some native language and after about thirty words the subtitle reads "Greetings".
Could be worth a few laughs.

Ha. That's great man.

Translate from English to Fillipino then back to English to see what it looks like. I wish I had the time today. I might try it if I get bored later on.

Rogerdv, are you talking about shortened links via bit.ly and other services like that?

I think I am confused too.

If you can use black hat seo in the right way, then your site will be safe, I have many sites that i use black hat seo tech, and they all rank well.

That's outrageous.

I looked at your stuff and have been reading your short comments. You are far from being black hat. Black hats don't brag about being that way. It's a silly marketing ploy. You advocate grey hat techniques, that may or may not work and don't stand a chance at lasting rankings.

Maybe but Google Wave is with invite only and I sure dont have an invite yet.

I got my invite a month ago but have yet to go have a look. Still in beta I think. I wait for things to roll out completely before I jump in. I've been burned a few times jumping in too quick.

use ur site as signature links in technology related forums and discussions..

Signature links are of very little value. I suppose if you accumulated a few thousand of them they might influence off-site ranking factors but there is no guarantee how the search engine would respond to the influx of signature links.

The best links are internal ones, from one of your web pages to another within the site, or network of sites. These links are within your control. Focusing on the on-page optimizable elements is working the off-page factors.

how worthy are shortened links from a SEO point of view? Should I avoid shortening links whenever possible?

As far as internal linking is concerned I think it's good to mix them up. Have some links with just keyphrases in them, others with complete sentences derived from the keyphrases, others not related to your keyword target at all. Don't be afraid to play around with graphic links with well constructed alt attributes. Throw those in too. If you use the title attribute in your anchor tags then do it consistently across your site, or don't do it at all. Short links, long links, targeted links, random links, graphic links, well worded title attributes. Mix and mash to keep the search engine interested. Organize your internal linking to focus on your important web pages but do it naturally and with the intent to impress an Internet visitor. Don't force feed links to the spider, let it develop a hunger for your content. Let it find the new links in a reasonable volume.

Remember that you don't need many incoming links to satisfying Google off-site factors. The best links are always your own and the ones that get generated naturally from satisfied Internet visitors.

Now if you are building yourself some incoming links, then the same principles would apply, avoid repetition and create innovative anchor text. Don't do like everybody else does. Make it all stand out, your webpages are likely amongst a big crowd pumped-up mediocrity so try to …

no follow link is also a backlink it wil come into accout when pr comes into..

... you mean when new PR values are assigned. Yep. that's about amounts to it. Any link building can be a great way to gain PR, follow or nofollow. Increases traffic too but not the knid that'll make a telephone call for your service or purchase your product, no, Internet noise. Robots, crawlers and marketing people looking to click and follow links don't matter whose site it's on. Great thing that PR. Impresses the hell of web site owners too. "Look, we're at PR 5!", and yet the search engine rankings are slipping or non-existent and the coveted PR5 website is being smoked by PR1 web pages in the SERPs. Why's that GreyHat?

It depends. If you want to try your hand at SEO then, because it would be free, it would be better and long lasting (if done correctly). A PPC campaign could be your solution too but it will cost you money and whenever you decide to stop the campaign so stops your web presence in the search engine results pages.

Hiring a search engine optimizer I would think would not usually be a great experience for innocent, vulnerable website owners because there seems to be many SEOs around lately who actually have no SEO skills at all however insane that sounds.

Hi everybody,
I was wondering where a can get a domain name .com for free without sing in for any hosting plans and so on.
Thank you in advance for your opinion and wish you good day.

Sub-domains yes but domains ... I haver never heard of one for free. If you find out let me know, I'll take 50 of 'em.

Backlinks is but one of many factors Google uses to determine rank. It is not the end all be all of ranking. However incredible this may sound, perhaps you have good content. Content is usually far more important to the search engine than incoming links. You can have a zillion links but if you haven't any content worth offering an Internet visitor you won't get high rankings. Five years ago, maybe, but not today.

Well, Ilike investigating stuff before I come up with an opinion and I checked Targ8 out. I never seen anything Yahoo or Ask, anywhere and the only thing that was Bing was image search.

I was expecting a multi-search result (like the old Mamma.com) kind of thing but all I received were Google results.

In essence, my experience was as if I was searching directly in Google except there were more Google ads than in Google.

What am I missing?

Hi to all
I have site with free hosting and domain name ,So I can not put any adsense add.so I got some alternative for option whic work same as adsense and you can earn money from there too.

Here is list
Adbrite
Adsense
Infolinks
Bid vertiser
Add some more if you already know..

Adbrite looks interesting. Seems like they have several trusted partners but as is everything else on the Internet today, I'll have to check it out a little further in order to provide a more educated response. At first sight though, seems quite legit.

since no one else will answer I will, and I will answer like on Jeopardy.
What is B?

"B is the correct answer", Mr Trevek smirks, "A can stand on its own two feet while the other requires an ever growing booster seat. Good job Rob in completing the entire category SEO Hat Shades."

you can make a english content and use google translate to translate it to tagalog :)

That's hilarious. I can only imagine the nonsensial droolings that would be generated from software translating my words. No. I think I'll pass on this one thanks. I've got laundry to fold.

OK - for example, does google look at div="footer
and everything inside that div will be valued less.

Or more broadly, would you put it past Google/Bing to understand the composition of various CMS engines, especially wordpress, and value links in different parts of the site differently? ie comment links are worth less than main article links, sidebar links are more worthless, footer links are worse, etc..

This is a controversial subject and my opinions on this kind of stuff changes regularly.

I get the impression that search engines like structure. They understand navigational systems. They find Headers and Footers all over the place.

To get to your question, I think there is a big difference in the way a search engine considers a link found in a sidebar menu and a link found in a comment.

On a side note, a link found within the body content is also considered differently than a navigational link because it is normally placed inside of a sentence or it is a sentence/phrase in itself.

Header and Footer links are supposed to be navigational, sidebar links too sometimes. Navigational links occur throughout the website, on every page whereas links in the body content or in a comment are randomly occuring. This is what the search engine expects, this is general webpage structure.

Now, to stick a bunch of links in the Footer for the purposes of SEO exclusively would go against standard webpage structure. It should raise …

What is the value of SEO footer links ?
For example, if we sponser or distribute a wordpress theme with footer links, will it help our SEO efforts?

That's a good question. It might, but it would attract the odd visitor looking for Wordpress themes; who isn't really interested in what your webpage is about.

Footer links, for SEO purposes, are effective when they serve as a navigation system to the important webpages in your web site.

I notice that many SEOs use the footer for spam links. They'll put unneccessary repetitive anchor links such as: Toronto SEO : Brampton SEO : Hamilton SEO : etc. The various city webpages are essentially identical, except for a couple of unique blurbs about each community at the beginning of the webpage. The purpose of this technique is obvious and I've seen it work but it's still spam.

Footer links are suppose to be for stuff like Disclaimer, About Us, Contact, Mission Statement etc. and even though these webpages sound boring and not very optimizable, they are in fact very useful in the overall scheme of things; particularly when the webmaster is interested in ROI moreso than bulk traffic.

The contest rules are in Fillipino.

Many people suggest changing <h1> in blog posts to optimise this for search engines.

What would be the best tips according to you? :)

Hey Bruce welcome to Daniweb.

Everybody does this a little differently.

I rarely use the <h1> and when I do it is because it is an important heading; in which a primary keyphrase is generally located (along with other words to give the complete phrase meaning). I make sure that I have at least one <h2> on the same page and that the <h2> is below the <h1> in the HTML. This shows the search engine that there is structure to the way the content is organized. Usually I would want to add relevant content (related to the heading) immediately below a heading tag, but not always. This is also the natural way a document is expected to be layed out.

Sometimes I may want to use a heading tag as a caption for an image. I may even feel it is important enough to merit a <h1>. In these cases, it is usually wise to define the image in an image alt attribute and have some related paragraph content nearby.

Good Example:
<h1>Here's my important Keyphrase.</h1>
<p>relevant content to h1</p>
<h2>This Keyphrase is of secondary importance.</h2>
<p>relevant content to h2</p>

Bad Example:
<p>random content</p>
<h3>secondary keyphrase</h3>
<h1>secondary keyphrase</h1>
<p>random content</p>
<h6>primary keyphrase</h6>

Now signature link has become very cheap , you get around $3 per 1000 posts per month.

Unreal. So if I came up with 30 bucks this month I could get 10,000 signature links. Then if I don't come up with 30 buck the next month all those links would disappear. It spiders them pretty quick too if they are all in the same place.

Reappear. Disappear. 0 signature links. 10,000 signature links.

Oh, the search engines gotta' love that yo-yo game.

This post will rank high for "comman seo mistake" , but very few people makes a mistake in spelling common :D.

... thanks, poor grammar is another one.

A forum signature is supposed to be much like your written signature. It's is about you and what you can offer. It's purpose is for a forum reader to peruse and follow if interested. It's not intended for the search engine, although it might be of some interest to the search engine but it's not a commodity that you want to prostitute. It's your signature.

The fact that your webpages rank highly in Yahoo and Bing is a very good thing. Even if it's unintentional, you probably have unique, quality content and well-optimized web page components.

Just keep doing what you are doing but pay more attention to building new web conent than off-site ranking factors.

The various search engines decide in different ways which links they will show they have found. None of them show them all. Some links are just too insignificant or repetitive or to similar to bother displaying as a unique link. As a matter of fact, don't even concern yourself with this wishy-washy variable. Concentrate on empowering your internal linking structure and focus on deploying important content and the search engines will come around in your favour, eventually.

Two scenarios:

A - Web page is exceptionally crafted and of immense value to the Internet.
B - Web page is the standard replicated, generic mediocrity.

Which webpage desperately needs links in an attempt to make it appear to be important?

Why would you want to comment on some stranger's blog whose content you care nothing about? Does this appear to be a natural way one web page has associated itself with another? No. It appears to be link scheming spam.

The search engine isn't as stupid as so many think.

...As more people find out about this it could drive them away from Google.

Good insight. I never thought about that. The search engine could spank itself into sensibility with enough of a privacy revolt.

Hey uniquesofts2009, like everyone has pointed out, it requires experience crafting web pages to really get the feel of what the search engine is looking to reward. Rich content seems to be of utmost value, meaning, content that is intelligent, important, authentic and meaningful. The stuff the search engine wants to provide an Internet searcher as the best results for a search.

Like Jay suggests, read up on recent SEO discussions. Take a half-day and read the search engines' own quality content guidelines. They point out fairly clearly what type of webpages they want to reward.

Keyword targeting is important. Figure out your important ones and any secondary ones. Do search frequency tests using Google tools to find a good mix of heavily searched and lightly searched relevant keywords. Some words with low search frequencies will have a high click-through rate because they are very specific. Sprinkle the keyword phrases and any other relevant keyphrases in the content. Vary the words by altering suffixes and prefixes or pluralizing or any number of other word variations so as not to continuously repeat the same ones and to broaden your qualified visitor net. Learn how to emphasize your important keyphrases using Heading tags (Hx) or bold or italic ... Name your images and webpages logically, throwing keyphrases in them when applicable. You'll have to learn how to write a good Title, a meta description and a meta keywords tag.

Write your paragraphs well.

Another thing you'll have to …

search engine is the best way to get traffic on ur site n make some gud backlinks for search engine it wld to help u get a PG

REGARDS
PRITAM

Hey Pritim, how's it going.

Humour me for a second, in an effort to acquire some kind of comprehension of your position, can you possibly elaborate on your initial response?

... I'm interested in hearing everyone's thoughts about this announcement...

This was just a matter of time.

This type of advancement will cause not only for a whole new breed of search engine spammers to sprout but also for all kinds of new marketing scams to easily exploit unsuspecting web site owners.

Naturally, just as the search engine starts evening out the SERP playing field and rendering the SEO profession legitimate again, they throw in another curve ball to twist it all up. Wreaking chaos in the Internet marketing world as best they can seems to be the secondary motto to "Do no evil". Anybody see the irony?

First, your domain looks a little spammy and hard to understand. Would you purchase from a domain that looks like that?

Second, your design looks like it could use a little more professionalism...

I agree with these two points.

I'd like to add that the landing page has a greyed out PR value which could mean three or more things (none of which I have time to check right now because the Montreal/Boston game is about to start and I have to run out to get cigarettes still):
1. Your subdomain has been banned from Google search results
2. Your subdomain is brand spanking new
3. The domain that you sub from is banned from the Google results

Another thing that puzzles me and could account for a serious penalty is the EN and FR Canadian hyperlinks on your landing page. Well, they are not hyperlink at all, I checked the code, they are javascripts. They turn into dynamically generated webpages eventually but is probably a real security issue with both the search engines and the end-user you are trying to attract. This technique is a common one used by malware installers and other bad boys.

I'd do a complete redesign with clean code (unlike the sloppy mess I was sifling through) and there's really no need for this project to have dynamic anything. Go straight, straight HTML. Seems to me that the time required to establish trust with the search engine and the …

Well, there's many ways you can do that. Some of them include:viral marketing (tell people about it), advertising on various media (magazines, newspapers, radio, TV...), Internet marketing (paying for search engine ads, search engine optimization, social networking, article submissions, blogging ...), let's see ... there's posting flyers all over town, tatooing your URL on your body, streaking across the basketball court with your www painted on your butt ... ok ... I'll go away now.

It is normal! If you want to stay on top positions, then you have to continue building links. Creating quality of back links will help you.

That's such a common misconception. Create whatever then make it appear to be important by deploying some link building scheme. In this model, should it have any success, you'll have to be forever trying to convince the search engine that you have important content.

How 'bout just creating important content right from the get go. Any off-site influences that come from other webmasters that think your important web pages are valuable additional resources for their Internet visitor may or may not affect your page rankings but it doesn't really matter if you have excellent, well-crafted optimized stuff. This is what the search engine seeks out: unique, well crafted, credible, authentic, authoritative, intelligently put together content and rewards web pages for that much much much more highly than garbage webpages with a zillion useless, pointless, manipulated, force fed links... I could go on but I'm out of breath.

Can anybody explain me how ppc works?:)

I'm no PPC expert but essentially you pay to have ads put in the sponsored listings located on the search engine results pages. Actually, you only pay when a searcher clicks your ad and arrives at your web sites, theoretically. Now, this is a basic definition but that's about it.

Hello
Being new to internet marketing I find myself being bogged down by all of the promotion sites that say they have the answers that will give ones site the exposure it needs. Trial and error can get awfully expensive. Any suggestions?

Try posting a question on the search engine optimization forum. SEO can be the most cost effective way of driving in trageted traffic but it requires the learning of new skills: crafting content rather than throwing stuff together, working the optimizable web page components, linking strategies, logical naming conventions etc. etc.

Good luck.

From how I understand it, fluctuations in rankings occur because you have yet to demonstrate authoritativeness. The search engine thinks you have good content but not as good as it could be. Authoritativeness can only be achieved over time by deploying an evolving web site and adhering to a standard of offering the search engine unique, important and credible content. It's time to grow. Pay particular attention to how you utilize your internal linking structure to emphasize important webpages.

Off-site factors can influence this phenomenum too (for example, the SE finds a thousand links one day and doesn't find any others for ten days, then finds two thousand of them somewhere else) but are best left to determine themselves. It seems good for the overall search engine strategy, in the longer term, to concentrate on what's within your control: your web pages, your images, your coding, your linking, your optimizable webpage components ...

Yes - i definitely think they can and I'm sure their toolbar tracks usage as well. So even if you don't have a Goog Account, they can still track one's usage via the Toolbar and tie it back to your IP.

I wonder if Google works with Federal organizations to help crack down on illegal online material.

I think that in today's world they most certainly do, although they won't easily admit to it. All search engines do, as they should. It's a pretty small, bizzarre world we live in now.

The thing about people's search criteria, and clicking patterns being stored that annoys me the most is that they sell this data to outside corporation. Google doesn't admit to it that I know of but Yahoo admits to it boastfully. The selling of Internaught trends allows advertising companies explicit lists of people interests and they in turn can deliver online ads directed exclusively for individual IP address (home addresses mostly) and even individual computers within a home network. Dad gets one set of ads while Bobby gets another. This to me is an invasion of privacy especially since the average Yahoo searcher hasn't any knowledge of this tracking or how they are being bombarded with custom ads.

What is the difference between google sandbox & penalty??

This is debatable. The way I see it is that a new web site will require time to convince the search engine that it is of value to offer Internet searchers. Convincing the search engine of the site's credibility will require the ongoing deployment of unique, important, authentic, authoritatively crafted/optimized content. This needs to be done lightly. For example, if a web site starts off with 50 webpages, it wouldn't be wise to develop 2000 more pages a month and generate 10's of thousands of useless links to it. No, a 50 pager should grow maybe 4-5 pages a month until it has convinced the search engine of its value and develop links naturally.

I don't look at searchengine as slapping on penalties anymore. The search engine can devalue or demerit a web page because of excessive and poorly considered off-site influencing activities, basic on-site spamming (ie hidden content) or depreciation in the delivery of the quality of the content. There's a few other things too that can cause a webpage demerit but they are not common.

... and poor spelling.

Haha.. Looks like someone's spamming or looking for some topics to write on and having other people do the work!

Hey that would be pretty clever. Never thought of that.

You know, I have recently bought a laptop bag made in [removed country specific] and the handle lasted one day. One day! Sure it was the cheaper option but I wasted $35 and then $100 computer repair. One day! Not even.

My computer bounced of the pavement two or three inches three or four times. Had to get a new harddrive installed. Never again. Never buy anything from [removed country specific] ever again, if I can help it.

[removed country specific] neither!!! I won't even share that story.

Then there's [removed country specific]. Cripes I won't even go there at this time I'm still traumatized by my choice in purchasing electronics fabricated by them ...

I think you are better off focusing on the on-site optimization.

Forget entirely on social medial spamming.

Make unique, credible, important content and learn how to optimize your web page components.

Create a web presentation primarlily for the potential Interent visitor otherwise you'll have to try to enforce your content (make it appear to be important) externally using whatever link building scheme is popular.

Craft great content! That's what SEO is about, not easy but gives you the best opportunity for sustainable top rankings.

Remember that "fly-by-night" techniques give you fly-by-night traffic and not necessarily qualified traffic, which refers to the visitor that performs a search, finds your web page and click through, and the unqualified traffic may impress your hit counter but is not the type of traffic that will influence your ROI positively (I'm refering especially to the social media power spammers and link building schemers).

Try it out. Looks OK from my perspective but you'll know how the search engine responds when it responds.

I look at it this way. For each website, I optimize for primary keyphrases (up to 5) then work the secondary and auxiliary keyphrases using word variations, abbreviations, acronyms, pluralization, altering prefixes and suffixes, morphology, antonyms, synonymous keyphrases...

Using these type of word variables enforces your primary keyphrases and offer a "long tail" keyphrase target approach. The search engines are intelligent today. As an example, they understand that a webpage revolving around SEO is credible when enforced with such terms as "search engine optimisation", "Internet marketing" and "website promotion" be scattered amongst the web page content.

My site is, basically, a single index.php page with a bunch of php includes.

For example: the contact page is " index.php?category=contact "

Do I have to redisgn the entire site or is there a way to get the bots to recognize that each one is a seperate page?

I agree with a redesign although it shouldn't be necessary if the pages have unique HEAD elements (Title, meta tags) and content. I have seen web sites perform well in php and I have seen them perform poorly. Much has to do with your coding, how error ridden it is ie: having two Title tags or multiple HTML tags. The main problems with PHP revolve around the search engine crawl.

You can stick with PHP and have success, but you must really know the condition of your web page coding. It's nice to automate things but at what expense.

Hey guys,hello,I am Serena.I want to become successful SEO.Can anybody help me.

Hi Serena and welcome to Daniweb. I agree 100% what Jay said. I'll just reword it a little differently. I think probably the most important SEO things to learn are:
1. How to create unique, credible, authoritative, interesting and important content.
2. How to deploy an effective internal linking structure.
3. How to properly craft the optimizable web page components.
4. How to naturally evolve a web site promotion.

Unfortunately, short cuts such as the ones you are talking about may bear some quick results in the long run patience is a virtue.

Couldn't agree with you more. The Internet is a wasteland of short-cut takers.

To the OP, work your content, work your optimizable web page components. You can go on some trendy, useless link building hunt but ultimately, it's what located between the HTML tags that'll get you sustainable rankings. If you want to be fly-by-night then play the SEO game fly-by-night (like most the rest of them).