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The SATA drive requires no jumper setting, so it's irrelevant in this case. ;)

With the DVD drive, set it to master. If it must share an IDE channel with another drive (i.e. same cable), then make sure it's another optical and not a hard drive.

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I have to wonder about your current computer configuration numan, because you should be getting decent enough performance out of the 9800 Pro. Forgive me if I repeat what I've stated in other threads, but I do browse a lot of forums. ;)

Does your hard drive light thrash around during gameplay? This would indicate a lack of RAM, with 1Gb recommended these days (but don't go out and buy some of the spur of the moment - let's be sure first!).

Have you tried gaming on a fresh installation of Windows? Switching cards can leave bits and pieces of old drivers behind, and combined with the clutter of an old install performance can be affected.

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wow...my card got 10843 in 3dmark 2001....it shouldve been 20000....how could this happen? What could possibley be wrong?

Were you running it in default settings with no AA or AF?

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http://www.rojakpot.com/default.aspx?location=8&var1=0&var2=39

It is recommended that you set fastwrites to disabled - instability may result with it turned on and the performance difference is minimal.

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I'm not really sure how well your card should be performing, but you can get a fair idea by looking at the 3dmark ORB results database and comparing your system to similar setups that have been recorded.

And Battlefield 2.....well, it runs sluggish on my 7800GTX with details turned down.

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No, if they were issues then the more likely result would be instability. As I said before, adjust your graphics detail to achieve better performance.

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You can only improve performance (that is, the number of frames per second that your video card spits out) by adjusting the level of graphics detail (or buy a new card, but you've already done that!). The ingame menus do not require much graphics power, hence the apparently high framerate. Tone down the detail and any AA/AF settings in the control panel.

You cannot "adjust" FPS directly in most cases - the performance you see is governed by the processing power of the video card and the settings you apply in games. ;)

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What kind of 6800 do you have there exactly? A GT, Ultra, Vanilla or LE?

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4.

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Formatting isn't necessary, but it does imply a reinstall of Windows. You are wiping the hard drive after all. ;)

You can just remove the current installation and keep your files.

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Did you properly remove the old video card drivers before swapping?

Regardless, the best way to achieve maximum performance is to start afresh with a clean reinstallation of Windows.

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Please use the edit button in future instead of triple posting numan.

"Coreclock" would be the operating frequency of your GPU - the main processing unit on your graphics card. Yours is ~380Mhz. "Memclock" is the operating frequency of your graphics card's onboard memory. Yours is ~680Mhz. Increasing these values through "overclocking" will improve performance, but cause your card to produce more heat and thus reduce its lifespan.

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FPS is "Frames per second". It determines the performance of games, with a higher rate producing smoother graphics. A low rate will appear laggy/chuggy/slow/choppy and can make a game unplayable as ingame actions take far too long to complete with far too few frames. I would mark 30 frames per second as a minimum for satisfactory gameplay, and 40+ as smooth (different people will have different opinions on this!). ;)

A program like FRAPS can tell you your framerate.

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Your card is operating at the correct speeds. It uses DDR RAM, which has a base clockspeed of ~340Mhz, which is effectively double pumped to 680Mhz.

Did you remove the previous drivers of your FX5200? Are you using the latest Catalyst drivers from ATI's website? Do you have AA or AF enabled in the ATI control panel?

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Similar situation here chaps. :|

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Whoa, mind the flamage chaps!

This thread ceased functionining a couple of months ago Sackavelli - chances are the original poster has moved on to bigger and better things, never to return. Please don't resurrect such old threads unless you have something new and geuinely important to contribute.

Thread closed.

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this thread is almost six months old, and that the author has accomplished what he wanted and has probabely moved on to other projects. :cool:

Exactly. Thread closed. ;)

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Did you install the drivers for the onboard network card (likely included in the nForce chipset drivers)? Is it enabled in the motherboard BIOS?

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I found though if you turn off quick write in your bios for the agp slot the stuttering graphics go away

You'll find that to be a common fix for many video card issues, with a negligible performance difference (it's recommended the option be turned off regardless).

but there wasnt much performance difference between my new setup and my old 32 bit barton 2800 set up.

Was that with the 6800GT as well? If so, I'm not entirely suprised at the lack of a noticeable performance. The video card is the driving force behind today's games, with performance being CPU limited until you start driving up the graphics detail.

Anyways, I rma'ed my mobo and bought ASUS K8V SE DELUXE Socket 754 VIA K8T800 ATX AMD Motherboard. No issues with my gpu and this chipset so hopefully this will fix the problem correctly

Good to hear!

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It depends. If it's a quality brand PSU, then chances are it'll be fine (no guarantees though!).

Decent brands include Antec, Aopen, OCZ, Topower and Enermax.

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I've seen it the other way 'round kc0arf! :)

I've not played with the XP64 myself, so my advice is merely informed guessing. Do you have 64-bit compatible drivers loaded? I'm not sure if the programs and games need to support 64-bittiness, but it's something worth investigating.

To be honest, I'd just stick with 32-bit Windows XP. The performance gained is hardly worth any trouble at the moment, and A64 is happy to run 32-bit applications.

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Did you format the drive in NTFS (right-click drive->properties when hooked up to the Windows XP machine)? If so, then Windows ME cannot read it. You must format it in FAT32.

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Personally, I wouldn't bother upgrading it. Maybe throw in some more RAM if you want a better operating system, but other than that, I would just keep it as a spare box for testing or running older programs.

If it's running a little sluggish, then I suggest a reinstall of Windows. Wipe the drive clean and start afresh. ;)

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I'm going to come in over Catter's head. ;)

what will resetting the BIOS settings actually do to my machine?

It will reset all of the settings in your BIOS to default. The main aim behind this is to ensure that any "tweaks" or overclocks made in the BIOS are undone. Performing a BIOS update with these settings in place could spell disaster. Better safe than sorry!

Will the computer ask me to make changes to the system after I've reset the CMOS, and if so, what should I do?

Provided you haven't got an out of the ordinary computer configuration (i.e. you have an out-of-the-box HP machine), then the system should boot just fine, and chances are the BIOS settings will be all the same anyway.

BUT.....do you actually need this BIOS update? If your computer is puttering along just fine without it, then don't bother. It's not worth the hassle!

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The more popular brands are Western Digital, Seagate and Maxtor.

Are you happy with your drive? ;)

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It's the way the manufacturers define the amount of space on the drive. For them, 1000 bytes = 1Kb, 1000Kb = 1Mb, and so forth. In Windows, 1024 bytes = 1Kb, etc.

So yes, it's normal, and there's nothing wrong with your drive.

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hey, just wanted to know if i upgraded to an athlon xp 3200+ or 3000+ (400fsb).... would i notice a difference in performance whilst playing games such as WoW, HL-2, and UT2004 from my sempron 3000+: 2.0ghz...333fsb...512L2 cache....

No.

Or if it would i would be better of just buying a new mobo (754) and getting an athlon 64?....thx :?:

I would concentrate on the graphics card, which may or may not require a platform replacement (depending on the chipset and interface you choose).

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$92 isn't that much Numan. Currently, the minimum requirement for decent gaming is a 6600GT or X700 Pro chipset video card, and even then you will probably need to adjust graphics detail in new games to maintain a healthy framerate. These cost around US$150.

If you can't afford the chipsets recommended, then I'm afraid up-to-date gaming with your desired detail levels may not be achievable.

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Numan, please keep your query to one thread. I'm closing this thread and your other one regarding online computer stores.

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What is your new motherboard? If your RAM requires 2.6V to operate, then you may experience instability if there aren't enough volts. However, most recent boards should be able to supply enough, with some offering an option in the BIOS to adjust the voltage.

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I suppose I'm just wondering whether I just bought a completely piece of junk processor that won't be able to handle games decently...

Oh my, heavens no. CPUs have been stuck in a bit of a rut lately, with the only major development recently being dual core models (which don't help all that much yet unless you're doing some serious multi-tasking). Your CPU is quite capable and I wouldn't worry about it. The most important component in this case is the video card.

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A mini-atx PSU? How big is your case? You're considering a fairly recent graphics card there, which can churn out quite a bit of heat. If your current enclosure is small with inadequate ventilation, then things could get quite toasty in there!

As for PSUs, ensure you get a brand name model - something from Antec, Topower, Enermax, OCZ, Tagan or Thermaltake. I would be looking for at least 350W. I'm not sure about models in the size you require - I'll have to get back to you on that (provided you stick with your current case!).

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From what I can tell, your card is an onboard solution - it's integrated into the motherboard, so looking inside won't help too much! It takes a portion of RAM for itself, and the amount set aside is governed by a BIOS setting, which you can change. Allocating more system RAM to the video card means less is available for other tasks, so I wouldn't go maxing it out in the hope of making games run faster (it's a rather slow 3D accelerator anyway).

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I've bought a PC with an AMD 64 bits processor and a serial ATA hard disk, Windows XP SP1 installed.

Stop right there! Is this a brand new PC? Have you installed any additional software aside from the stuff supplied? If this PC is untouched and plodding along out of the box, then send the bugger back - it has a warranty doesn't it? ;)

(a request for SP2 to be installed is also a good idea)

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Whoooohaaaa, before we start recommending new discs and complete cleanouts, let's find out what exactly is happening! As McReagant suggested, an outline of what makes up the rest of your system would be a good start. What errors pop up during the Windows XP setup? Is the CD known to work on other systems?

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Ho ho ho, a funny problem for some and bloody annoying for others. No worries though - it's easily fixed.

You need to head into your PC's BIOS setup (commonly accessed by pressing the del key during the POST screens that appears when you first turn your PC on. Some models have F1 or other keys) and disable "wake on ring".

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(dont know what combo means)

It commonly refers to drives with DVD reading and CD writing capabilities - a combination of the two.

Q. Which is the best DVD writer cum reader available for home desktop users...???

I generally recommend either the Pioneer DVR-109 or the NEC ND-3520/ND-3540.

Q. Is it worth it or should i stick with my CD writer only...???

Depends on what you plan to burn! If normal CDs suit your backup purposes, then there's probably no need to upgrade. Stick with your current drive until you really need to switch or it happens to die.

Q. plz suggest considering one which is compatible with all DVDs...

The ones I recommended write both + and - blank media, along with dual layer + discs.

and future technologies...???

That's a big ask! Some manufacturers release new firmware for a drive so it can support new discs and/or writing technologies, but I wouldn't count on it.

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1. Does this emachines know everything about the mother board, is it possible that the Trigem MotherBoard Can take :8086, 80286, Intel 386, Intel 486, Pentium processor, and Pentium Pro processors.
Just like the intel 810Chipset can?

Whoa, whoa, going too far back there! That motherboard can only take socket 370 processors - certain Pentium 3 and Celeron CPU models. Pentium Pro and backwards use different socket formats.

What is it you're trying to achieve from this upgrade? From what eMachines has told you, the only "upgrade" is a 533Mhz chip. Hardly worth your while! Even if the board supports something a little faster, I wouldn't look forward to a dramatic performance increase. Those boxes should be left as basic Linux PCs and intended savings directed to a new machine. If you really want to boost them, consider a RAM upgrade, provided you can pick up some compatible sticks cheaply.

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O_O

Don't go sticking your card in the fridge again! Otherwise it might bring along some friends from the H20 department.

If your card cannot maintain stable graphics quality even with some extra fans helping to cool the case, then I'm afraid it's not worth the price you paid. Send it back and get a replacement!

If that's not possible, then you might want to decide on a decent case cooling solution and replace the video card's heatsink/fan with a better after-market product.

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Hi hmmmm well initialy i suspected it getting too hot coz the metel surround on the gfx card was very warm. Should i have a fan extracting heat and one drawing cold air in will that help?

That could help, yes. See this article for information on better case ventilation (near the end).

I never had this problem with my geforc prehaps its sumthing to do with the fact the gfx card is directly linked to the psu.

Since it needs more power it naturally will produce more heat.

Dud card is out of the question the guy tested it he said it works fine on his system

Did he "test" it by just plugging it in and seeing if it booted? Or did thoroughly test it using some 3D applications where the problem actually occurs? ;)

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Them's artefacts - a common symptom of overheating cards! You can check if it's a thermal issue by opening the side of your case and blowing a deskfan directly onto your video card.

What's your case cooling like? Do you have fans blowing air in and out?

If ventilation is up to scratch, then you might just have a dud card on your hands.

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Im thinking: Is an Normal PCI card capable of running modern games?

No. The fastest PCI cards I can find are based on the Radeon 92xx and Geforce 5200-5700 chipsets, and these are inadequate for high-end gaming. You need at least a 6600GT to achieve decent framerates without sacrificing too much image quality. You can "run" most current games on the slower chipsets, but it won't be a painless experience!

It also remains to be seen if manufacturers will continue to use AGP for newer chipsets. Granted, there are plenty of previous generation cards in AGP format, but it's unknown if the new chipsets will be released using the older technology.

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No i don't think i'll be contacting anyone because i got a good service, i know there's a myth out there about pirates but it's common place now you'll agree and frankly hearing the word pirate now days don't mean anything to me.

Might not mean anything to you, but it means a heck of a lot to us. Any further posting of links to pirated software websites will be removed and persistence will result in suspension of your account.

I think the original question has been answered - don't trust those emails one aota. Bin 'em and buy original software from your local or trusted online dealer.

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You moved from a Real PRocessor, to a budget processor, which is part of your problem.

You went from a P4 1.7 ghz processor with more cache, to an AMD Semperon Class (equivlant of a celeron in AMD's case) with less cache.

I disagree Zachery - the Sempron is question may have less cache than other chips out there, but it does have the A64 core up its sleeve, giving it quite a bit of grunt, especially when compared to the rather ancient 1.7Ghz P4 from before (which, incidently, only has 256Kb of L2 cache ;) ).

As we can see here, a Sempron 2600 does a pretty good job in gaming (and overclocks like the clappers).

In the end however, it's the video card that you should really focus on! I would suggest reallocating money from the CPU replacement to something like a 6800GT. ;)

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You need the SATA controller drivers (on a floppy disk) in order for Windows to see the drives. At the start of the setup process, you are prompted to hit F6 for this reason - ensure that you do.

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What is your budget and currency?

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If you want you could tell us what model is your motherboard and we could tell you what slots you have...

As I said, he has standard PCI slots. ;)

http://www.daniweb.com/techtalkforums/thread27182.html

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It wasn't until I got home that I realized that 2800+ worked out to be 1.61Ghz - less! that what I already had.

A lower frequency it seems, but in case you didn't know, gigahertz isn't the main indicator of performance in CPUs anymore - it's the design of the core and how much work it can do per clock cycle.

That Sempron 2800+ there is based on the Athlon 64 - quite simply the fastest gaming CPU on the market. They've stripped the 64-bittiness and chopped some of the internal cache off, but it's still a capable CPU and easily surpasses your doddering 1.7Ghz P4.

Why the less than stellar gaming performance? Simple - it's your video card. The 9250 you have there is based on technology first released back in 2001 and, unfortunately, is one of the slowest cards currently available. If you want to play BF2 at a decent frame rate (and with graphics detail that doesn't make you cringe), then you'll need at least a 6600GT or an X700 Pro. Doubling your RAM is also a good idea - BF2 seems to love the stuff.

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Either board will support an AGP8X video card. An i845 chipset board should have an AGP4X slot, which should be fine.

Even so, make sure you can get a guarantee that the card you're buying will work in your motherboard.