Posts by dcc

That would be my guess. A couple of quick questions, did the CPU have a fan attached to the heat sink and if so was it working, did you remove the CPU in the process of changing cases, it sounds like the module wasn't properly seated or the fan wasn't working...the botom line is it does not look good.

If the seller won't warranty this problem I would suggest that you turn off the power, open the case and unplug the data and power cords and remove the CD/ROM from the front , there usually are a couple of screws on each side of the drive holding in the case..remove these. With it out you should be able to manipulate it easier, ie turn it upside down with the tray open and shake it, do this first. The gear or belt drive for the tray is in the front just under the tray, pay close attenion to this area of cleaning. I you have a can of air, blow it out, the cd is plastic and won't harm anything inside if small pieces are blown in there, the gears are the main concern. You might try sliding the tray slowly in and out while you blow it out, this will povide access to the gears' teeth. The good news is that it sounds like it's still alive from what you have written, and a good cleaning should do the tick.

If you are saying that it won't POST after the over heating then you may have fried the CPU.

What ever you use needs to be able to fit in the hole. There is a release mechanism that if you push against it will release the tray, but yes you will have to pry the door open, if it doesn't come open easily you still haven't released the tray. You might try a sewing needle if you don't have a paper clip.

There should be a small hole just under the tray, stick something like a straightened paper clip in there until you feel resistence. push against this and the tray should then be able to be pried -gently- out.

At 60 degrees c I'd be shutting down also, what's different with the cpu that it over heating...hmmmm?

It has been suggested that I flash my BIOS in an attempt to correct a problem, I have also been warned that this could leave me with more problems than I started with, so how can I avoid this other than the obvious not doing it? And How is flashing the BIOS accomplished?

Hey Coconut Monkey...I have the case open and sitting so that I can see it out of the corner of my eye while looking at my monitor so that I can see the LED display on the motherboard. And although the stopping in he POST is at random, it always shows the same configuration on the LED display (5)G (4)G (3)R (2)G, and the diagnostic chart shows that configuration to be: Initializing Floppy Drvie Controller. This happens so randomly that I can't even say x number of times a week, it could occur twice in a week, or go for three weeks without an incident. Am I correct in my thinking that to stiip it down to the bare bones wouldn't be productive with the randomness of the problem? I'm not in a postion to rebuild this computer at the moment, hence my desire to do the tech work, to my credit I do have some fairly good tech skills and access to a vacume type desoldering machine.

I have a MSI K7 Pro (MS6195) motherboard, and my computer has been intermittently stopping in the POST. When this happens the LED display on the motherboard indicates that the problem is occuring at the initialization of the floppy drive controller. Can anyone tell me which chip this is in, and what other functions it provides, and can I replace it at a reasonable cost?

Hey indienick...I just attempted your suggestion, but the option "Use Simple File Sharing (Recommended)" is not offered, what opperating system are you using? Just a reminder...I'm using 2k pro.

Thanks dlh6213...I just bookmarked those links for current and future refference.

Thanks...I'll peruse these later, have to go make some money now.

Absolutely! Thanks, it makes sense now. I do apperciate your taking time to answer this newbe type question, but I have to get an education of the architecture for a better understanding of how this machine works. If you can think of a good tutorial that might help me get ahead to where I can start asking the "good" questions... :)

Goodmornig indienick...I tried to remove it in the safe mode last night and got as far as deleting the file name and renaming it, but as soon as I try anything after that I get the measage: Cannot rename file: Cannot read from the source file or disk.

As I said at the beginning, I recently reformatted, and I'm the administrator, and the only person to touch this computer, which makes me the person who inadvertently made this file.

I'll try accessing it thogh the task manager, by the way...I'm using 2k pro.

Hey dlh6213...I have that location bookmarked, and have seen both of these definitions before,they're very similar. They both control peripheral devices, but that's where the definitions becomes vague. Let me see if I have this close to right, a controller is the information coming from the ATbus, PCI, and SCSI devices. And the drivers make this information from the controllers work by means of translation?

What is the difference between a driver and a controller, and where are they located.

Hi indienick...I must be slipping to have forgoten to include that.

Error Deleting File or Folder
Cannot delete file: Cannot read from the source file or disk.

After reformatting and getting everything back to normal I decided to make a rescue disk for my AVG anti virus, after using the only two floppys I realized that I wasn't going to have enough to finish the job, so I decided to explore the alternative...a CD. After three unsuccessful attempts I decided to just wait until I purchased more floppy disks and closed the program, that's when I noticed three new icons on the desktop in the form of file folders with the titles that I had created for the disks. I was abel to right click and then delete two of them, but one of them won't delete. I've tried to delete it by using the disks with no luck, deleting it in safe mode...nada. Now I could sure us some advice, obviously this isn't something dangerous that needs to go, but it would sure be nice not to see the reminder of my unsuccessful attempts. :-|

I was trying to go online and I had this message pop-up:

Microsoft Visual C++
Runtime Library

Runtime Error

Program:C:\Program files\Peoplepc\ISP6100\Browser\Bartshel.exe

abnormal program termination

OK

Can anyone tell me what this means, if it had an error code and number I could go to M$ and find out what it means, but alas...
I suspect a good part of my problem is Peolpepc, nothing nice to say here.

If it's under warranty let them take care of it, after all they're the ones who used the cheap peripheral components so that they could sell you this computer at a competitive price and still laugh all the way to the bank.

Hey Chels126...if you found the hole just below tray you need to push the straightened paper clip in until it meets resistance, gently push against this and it should release the tray. The tray won't slide out as it does when it's under power, you will have to use something to gently pry the tray open enough to pull it open with your fingers. The bad new is it sounds like you drive has gone south, if there isn't anything in the tray that you need to retrieve...forget it, there are some good deals out there, here's one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152039

Something else you might try is to clear the cookies in your browser. You mighr also go to start, search and enter the name of this file to see if it's still hanging around.

If you have a VOM, remove the battery and see if you have any output to the leads.

Usually this type of file can be deleted in the safe mode as previously posted, but if you still can't delete this file you may be infected. Have you scanned this file with your AV and spyware & adware programs?
If you need help getting into the safe mode let us know.

First of all, this may not be the proper forum for this, that really doesn't mater. What does is you have a problem and have asked for help.

Have you run anything else, like spybot search and destroy, ewido security suit, or ad-aware? You can google these and download them for free. If these don't help you might try downloading Hijack This Log, run it and post the results in the forum for viruses. Been there, good luck!

If your problem is that the tray for your CD won't open, look just below the tray for vey small hole (usually about an inch from either corner), if you insert something like a paper clip in there you should be able push against a release bar, then gently pull the tray out. Now as to what the problem is...it could be anything from a gear or a belt not working to a bad cable connection or a dead player. Then again...got kids?

What are you using as your browser?

Hey Thong_Ispector...thank you for the subtle correction, the POST is BIOS, there for the indicator is not from the motherboard, I think I got that right. Sorry, didn't mean to disrupt this thread...my BIOS is AMI (03/09/00). BTW, is there any place that I could get a free update for my BIOS?

In cases like this (pardon the pun) I belive trying to get the best bang for the buck, and produce the best machine for the price. But what I was reffering to as "not worth it" is explaining that this thread is almost six months old, and that the author has accomplished what he wanted and has probabely moved on to other projects. :cool:

If you can recognize the basic components on a pc board, know how to trouble shoot the basic components with a DMM, and have some through hole soldering skills you might want to try fixing this. If you don't, I would recomend that you pay someone with the proper skills to make the repair. If you aren't competent in these areas you could make the problem worse.

It would help to know what kind of computer or motherboard you have, I have a MSI which recently had the same beep sequence while doing the POST, and mine was indicating a hard drive problem.

You night also try downloading and running this:

http://www.ewido.net/en/

I ...oh never mind! It ain't worth it.

Ah!!...school starts soon, and then you won't be so short of things to do.

Would you please tell us what kind of computer you have, and if it's home build what motherboard and proccessor you'er using, and last of all, exactly what kind of memory did you install? Thanks

Thanks crunchie...I will do as you have instructed and post the results, but I won't be able to get to the other computer until next week.
Can you tell me anything about this virus?

Hey crunchie...yeah, gotta do something about the danged dyslexia. Yes I was reffering to HaxDoor, htakns. :o

I'm guessing that you aren't using the computer as a piggy bank, and that when you say you put more money into it you are refering to an after sale installation. Will you please tell us what you installed? :cool:

I have a friend who has a Dell computer, and recently he has been getting error messages that when I check them out at Microsoft said that he had the virus MaxDoor. Microsoft went on from there to explain how to remove it in the registry, and warns up front that this is risky. Does anyone here know about this virus and how to get rid of it?

OK guys...here it is,

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 6:59:54 AM, on 8/5/2005
Platform: Windows 2000 SP4 (WinNT 5.00.2195)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)

Running processes:
C:\WINNT\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\csrss.exe
C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\services.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgamsvr.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgupsvc.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\regsvc.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\MSTask.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\ZoneLabs\vsmon.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\WBEM\WinMgmt.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINNT\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\FaxTalk NetOnHold\Ftnohmgr.exe
C:\Program Files\HP\hpcoretech\hpcmpmgr.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\spool\drivers\w32x86\3\hpztsb10.exe
C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\HP Software Update\HPWuSchd2.exe
C:\Program Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm\zlclient.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgcc.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVGFRE~1\avgemc.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\carpserv.exe
C:\Program Files\FaxTalk Communicator\FTCtrl32.exe
C:\Program Files\Spyware Doctor\swdoctor.exe
C:\Program Files\PeoplePC\ISP6100\Browser\Bartshel.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\PeoplePC\ISP6100\Browser\PPShared.exe
C:\Program Files\FaxTalk Communicator\FAPIEXE.EXE
C:\Program Files\PeoplePC\ISP6100\Browser\Bartshel.exe
C:\Program Files\PeoplePC Accelerated\PeoplePC.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\wuauclt.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\MOZILL~1\FIREFOX.EXE
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\HijackThis.exe

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = http://home.peoplepc.com/search
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://home.peoplepc.com/websearch
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant = http://home.peoplepc.com/search
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings,ProxyServer = http=localhost:8080
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: PCTools Site Guard - {5C8B2A36-3DB1-42A4-A3CB-D426709BBFEB} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYWAR~1\tools\iesdsg.dll
O2 - BHO: PeoplePal Toolbar - {A8FB8EB3-183B-4598-924D-86F0E5E37085} - c:\program files\peoplepc\toolbar\PPCToolbar.dll
O2 - BHO: PCTools Browser Monitor - {B56A7D7D-6927-48C8-A975-17DF180C71AC} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYWAR~1\tools\iesdpb.dll
O3 - Toolbar: @msdxmLC.dll,-1@1033,&Radio - {8E718888-423F-11D2-876E-00A0C9082467} - C:\WINNT\System32\msdxm.ocx
O3 - Toolbar: PeoplePal Toolbar - {A8FB8EB3-183B-4598-924D-86F0E5E37085} - c:\program files\peoplepc\toolbar\PPCToolbar.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Synchronization Manager] mobsync.exe /logon
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NetOnHold] C:\Program Files\FaxTalk NetOnHold\Ftnohmgr.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NeroFilterCheck] C:\WINNT\system32\NeroCheck.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HP …

Hey guys...it sounds like both of you suspect an intruder! I will do as you have suggested, but tell me this...what made both of you suspect a virus or another "nastie"? Thanks, dcc

I recantly had some problems and wound up reformating, and afterwards the POST would stop and give me the following message: Pri Master Hard Disk: S.M.A.R.T. Status BAD, Backup and replace. I'm using the computer now, and haven't had a hickup since I reformated, does this message mean that I will have a hdd failure?

Hi all...I had to reformat my computer last week and have just about everything back on line as it should be, but I'm being inundated by pop-up messages telling me that it's urgent that I use their product to repair everything from the registry to my hard drive. If you're niave enough to download their test and use it, it will install a problem that you will then have to purchase their product to "fix", what a scam! I have AVG, Zone Alarm, Spybot search and destroy, and adaware, but I still get these pop-up "urgent" messages, how do I stop these things, they are making me cazy!

Amen to that Catweazle...I just spent the last several months trying to track down a bunch of small problems that got bigger as time went by, only to have the computer fail to boot one day. After reformating I now have a smooth running machine. :cheesy:

The down side of this of course is reinstalling and downloading all the information I lost, training AVG not to hide my mail, and setting all my personal settings...all toll, a couple of days work. :sad:

This morning I cleared the CMOS and started up the computer only to have it stall in the POST with this message...A: Drive Error, this was followed by two beeps, a pause, and one last beep, this was a first, it usually just would stall. After pressing F1 it continued without a hitch, I had to restore some features but nothing drastic, and the computer is running faster. After turning the computer off I reconnected the data cord from the fdd to the motherboard and restarted it with no proablems, I checked the fdd and it works now, my CD/ROM recently quit working also, I think I'll reinstall it and see if it plays Lazaus also!

If you download this it will provide you with all the information you should need about your computer specs.

http://www.snapfiles.com/download/dleverest.html

When the program opens click on computer, and then summary. Please tell us what it says for CPU type, and mother board name. If you look to the left there is a menu, and under motherboard you will find SPD, click on this and tell us what the "device description" says.

Hey Alvein...that's another place to stay away from, it's called the "flyback", and it also has capasitors in the circuit. Glad to hear you weren't injured seriously.

Janine...sorry to hear about the ankle, I've been there myself. Soft tissue problems like that can take longer to heal than a brocken bone

Hey Alvein...if you need to ask how to do this, I would seriously suggest that you not try it, the voltage level in those capacitors is leathal! I would suggest blowing the PSU out and leave it at that, but to answer your question, you can discharge the caps with a pair of insulated electornic type jumper cables and a lamp. First thing to do is to make sure that you unplug the PSU, and that the lamps switch is in the off position, if the lamp is on when you go to attach the last cable you will have a complete circuit which could result in the cap arking across the gap between the terminal and the jumper which could it turn shock you. Then connect the two cables to the line and neutral plugs of the lamp, very carefully attach the cables one at a time to the terminals of the cap, make sure that the two cables don't touch each other at either end, then turn on the lamp, when the light goes out the caps should be discharged. I can't stress this enough...this is very dangerous, 16 joules is a leathal amount, and your caps way exceed that level!

JANINE...the danger of poking around in a PSU is not the "transistors", the capacitors are the real danger, they can hold a line voltage ( 110 -220 volts depending on your local) charge for months after being unpluged. :cheesy:

Have you tried troubleshooting it in add/remove hardware?