dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

I don't know what your price range is so I can't suggest any thing other than a manufacturer, I would go with a Asus. Here's as nice combo.

Is there any reason that you are sticking with the AMD rather than going with a core 2 duo?

As for the RAM, I'm not sure what you mean by the RAM being less stable the higher it gets. Can you explain what you are asking?

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

Well hallelujah Ancient Dragon, at 55 I was beginning to think that perhaps I was the oldest here. I got a letter from AARP a while back, kinda brought it all home.

jbennet...you pup, I have two cats that are older than you, that's each not together. I should register them so they can vote, they have better sense than some people.

Ancient Dragon commented: There may be snow on the roof but there' +14
dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

Then it's not the hdd that is causing the black screen.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

You can purchase a volt ohm meter at Radio Shack, there should be some analog meters that you will need to learn how to read but are less expensive that the autoranging digital meters.

To read the different voltages you will take the black probe from the meter and insert it into any of the black wire sockets, they are all negatives. The link that I provided you with has the colors and their associated voltages, example...the yellow wire is the 12V wire, insert the red probe from the meter into that socket with the black probe in the black wire socket, with the meter set to read DC voltage read the meter.

If you would like to go the easier route you could purchase a tester like this antec for about fifteen US dollars, I don't think you will have any problem finding one if you not in the states.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

It would be simpler to install the other hdd as a slave drive and transfer the files for the slave to the master. This is very quick and simple.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

If it's the OS you will be able to boot from the CD, go into the BIOS and set the CD-ROM as the first boot device. If you can't do this then your problem isn't the hdd.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

It sounds like it could be a bad 12V rail, the four pin CPU 12V plug it looks like is working as the hsf is working. Take a voltmeter and see what you have for voltage on one of you molex connectors.

If you want to see what all of the different rails are reading try this. With the power switch in the off position on the PSU or with the cord unplugged from the AC outlet pull the 24 pin connector off of the motherboard and place a jumper between the green wire, there is only one, and any black wire. Now you can turn the PSU on and read the different voltages.

If you go to this site you will find the 20 pin connector color code for the different voltages, the 24 pin connector is on the second page. Click on where you see * ATX new power supply connector pinout v 2.x is a new ATX standard, use 24 pin connector.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

If you have the installation disc with the product code for your OS wipe the hdd and reinstall the OS. Use a utility like WipeDrive to wipe it. This makes a CD that you boot from. Do this with the computer that you are working on, not on another.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

ECC is error correcting RAM which typically was found in servers and is slower because of the extra chip monitoring the others. Motherboards that run on PC133 could be picky about what RAM they would like to see, the cas latency and voltage should be ok but you may have a problem with the ECC. Another problem was with the density, some motherboards like MSI didn't like high density modules. Try it and see, it won't hurt anything.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

I honestly can't address this specific motherboard, but recently MSI has had problems with capacitors which is strange since the incident that flooded the industry with bad caps has been long past. They also have had some issues with power at their USB ports. Another problem is that they are rather picky about what RAM they like, but then so is ASUS.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

Your hdd is pretty full, out of the remaining free space the hdd will allocate a percentage of that for swap space. If you are running anything that is taxing the RAM it will revert to using the swap space of the hdd, in this case it's not available.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

Gads!...getting information from you is like pulling teeth.

Specifically...what make and model of computer/s, case, PSU, dog house and cat box did you put together????

As jbennet has eluded to there are companies like Dell that use proprietary components so that you will have to go back to them for repairs. One of the problem here is that not only do they at times use a PSU made to their non standard ATX specs the 20 connector that attaches to the motherboard will have a different pin out which means that if you attach it to an ATX form factor motherboard it will create a short.

You still have not answered my question regarding taking a hdd from one machine and adding to a different motherboard. If you take a hdd out of one computer and put it into another with a different motherboard you can corrupt the OS.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

If it didn't take it out introducing the hdd to the chipset of another motherboard could corrupt the OS.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

But what is the world without smoke and mirrors?

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

It would help if you provided a little more information, like what the components were?

Did you buy any chance add a hdd from another system to a different motherboard?

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

How much RAM do you have, and how much free space in there on the hdd's two partitions.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

I had meant to add the following but multitasking took me over the thirty minute limit for editing, so here's the rest of the information.

Electromigration has been around for about a hundred years but didn't have real relevance until the about 1966 with the advent of the IC. One of the considerations in designing ICs is the high temperatures which break down the copper traces, so much so that there is a test called the high temperature over life which can determine the life expectancy of an IC in a given situation. Through combining different alloys and annealing they have made significant improvements, but the heat issue still exists. I will be interested to see what will happen in the near future, there are companies experimenting with the use of fiber optics for connections which will not only eliminate the electromigration problem but should also be appreciably faster.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

Mushy-pea, that is what I had thought. The thermal hysteresis would be the end result of the electromigration.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

Truman did a great job by detonating the first and only nuclear weapons ever used in war.

It's just too bad we didn't develop nuclear fusion and the hydrogen bomb until the 50s.. It could have been much worse.. In my opinion, we should have researched the neutron bomb and developed its technology completely. Hypothetically, It is a nuclear weapon that is supposed to kill people, but leave the buildings and infrastructure intact.

Josh...there were two nuclear bombs dropped within three days of each other in Japan. The two bombs were named little boy and fat man, little boy was dropped on Hiroshima and fat man was dropped on Nagasaki.

Waiting for research wasn't an option for several reasons that have already been mentioned. Not only was it important to demonstrate that we had "the bomb", but to also demonstrate repeatability by dropping the second bomb.


Christina...apparently you made you post with similar information while I was writing mine.
On a personal note, I believe that Patton had the right idea that we should have immediately gone after the Russians after WW2.

Back to the question about my favorite period, with so many different periods shaping the future it's difficult to choose just one. If I had to pick one I guess it would be the Renaissance period, this period was the true beginning of modern man.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

The cables that are used to connect the monitor screen and the motherboard are of a very specific impedance and changing this could lead to loss or degradation of signal.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

I'll say this one last time, we need to know the make and model of you computer in order to find out what PSU came with it. Or you can google it and find out what it is, or you can open the case and see what the make and model of the PSU is and then google that.

The information that you want to know is what the wattage is, it will read something like 300W (Watts), 450W... It would also be helpful to know what the maximum amperage of 12V rail is.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

We really need to know what make and model your computer is if it is retail, if it is a home brew we will need to know what the motherboard is.

You can also go to Crucial and use their configurator to determine what the motherboard is and what RAM will be compatible. There is another option there to have them scan your computer to find out this information. The recommendations will show the max amount of RAM per slot, the type of RAM it will run on, and the modules that they know will be compatible.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

What is the difference between electromigration and thermal hysteresis?

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

Were you born this way or have you worked at this your whole life?


btw...this is a rhetorical remark, not reply will be needed.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

How about dropping the sarcasm and simply explain your point.

It would also be nice if you would provide us with links to the information that you are basing this on.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

Dang...a thread that actually has intellectual merit and doesn't include the word game in the title.

The question that comes to mind is if they are willing to release this information now, what is coming hot on it's heels that is going to make this information obsolete?

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

Did you hear about the guy that cut the whole left side of his body off in a chainsaw accident? He's all right.

Ancient Dragon commented: nice joke :-) +14
christina>you commented: :) +8
Aia commented: good one +2
dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

Linw124...If you go back to the page with all of the threads listed you will find a yellow rectangle in the upper left hand corner that reads START NEW THREAD, a new page will open with POST NEW THREAD in the upper left hand corner. You will need to fill in the information for your title and if the space below that write your message.

As for your problem...what does the user's guide say about beep or tones?

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

Change the CMOS battery.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

Happygeek, I'm not sure who your last post was aimed at, but if it was for me...not to worry. At the very first of this thread I expressed my opinion of the rep power and it still stands. The people who's opinions mean anything to me are the ones that will either pm me or post their thoughts in public. People like this junior wannabe mensa member who panned me for posting something that others could participate in without having any social or political significance is the type of member that you just have to laugh at. Unfortunately this type of person makes the rep power a useless tool in reality.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

I have had three bad reps, all of them have been from here in the geek's lounge.

One of them was from the thread "Another add your caption", the comment was "why the heck do you need another one?" This member was simply demonstrating why they hadn't been invited to join mensa.

The other two came from the thread "Shooting at Virginia Tech.", this was a controversial topic so it doesn't surprise me.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

Have you run any scan for infections?

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

It would have helped to know the make and model of your computer if it is a retail product, and if it is a home brew specifically what the PSU is.

The manufacturer of that graphics card recommends a minimum of a 420W PSU. If your PSU is insufficient it could cause this type of problem.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

I noticed that you don't mention the manufacturer of the PSU, this is the heart of you system, don't skimp there. Stick to a recognized name brand.

I have to admit to being a die hard fan of AMD, but at the moment the Core 2 Duo is the best CPU out there. This could change in the near future, but for now I would have to go that way if it is in the budget.

At the moment I'm not a real fan of MSI, they have had some problems of late. I do still like ASUS even if they are picky about what RAM they like, but this seems to be a problem in gerneral with boards using DDR2 at the moment.

I do agree with the XP Pro, I personally wouldn't consider Vista for another year or after their first service pack or which ever comes first.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

No, what I was suggesting was to use another computer that you can depend on to make the downloads for these utilities and then transfer these to a CD or DVD so that you can install these on your computer with the infections.

I would suggest trying AVG and Asquared before you wipe the drive.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

Ok, I edited the link. Don't waste your time. If you really want to read psuedo-scientific b.s., try "Science Made Stupid". The only difference is that it is intentionally funny.

To the original poster: I have to ask, what made you decide to ask your question on Daniweb, an IT Discussion Community?

I'm guessing that we're a target rich environment because of the majority of our members that participate regularly if this forum are minors who are impressionable.

This ranks right up there with Scientology, another work of fiction taken seriously.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

Mild over heating can slow things down, buy a can of air and blow it out. Make sure to clean the heat sink and fan on the CPU, stick a pencil through the blades to keep them from spinning.

What did you run your scans with, and did you run them in safe mode?

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

If you have the installation disc for you operating system with the product code you might want to consider wiping the hdd with something like WipeDrive rather than reformatting it. A product like WipeDrive will completely overwrite everything on the hdd including those viruses where as reformatting will only delete the addresses of you files.

Now days you need several types of protection to keep this type of problem from happening. All of the software listed below can be run with each other without conflict, you will have problems if you try to run two different anti virus softwares at the same time...they don't play well together. All of these programs are free.

AVG anti virus http://www.grisoft.com/promo/download-avg-75-free-free75cnv/

Spybot Search and Destroy http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2471.html

Adaware http://www.majorgeeks.com/download506.html

Asquared http://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/free/

You will also need a firewall like Zone Alarm http://www.filehippo.com/download_zonealarm_free/

If you have a CD or DVD drive on your computer you might try downloading these programs on another computer and then transfer them to your computer. Start your computer in safe mode and run your scans there, you may be able to get rid of your infections by doing this.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

You mean to say that you actually do something other that read really old threads????

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

This may be a boot-vector virus, try scanning with your anti virus, malware, spyware...

You can read about it here.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

What else are you using this computer for? If you are going on line with it then you should scan for infections, that's typically what slows things down if it has happened quickly.

When was the last time that you defragged the hdd?

How much RAM and free space on your hdd do you have?

Have you cleaned the dust out recently?

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

Just curious here...do you have any breath left after beating yourself on your back like that?

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

From what I've seen the rep rating system is only useful as a popularity poll supported by the members. There is no criteria that needs to be met, no guides lines go by, and I suspect that most members are as oblivious as I am of it. Just more eye candy.

Having said that...how do I access this report?

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

The gravity is explained by it's speed of rotation, it complete its' rotation of the sun in thirteen weeks.

For those of you who are saying that travel is impossible I would like to remind you that a lot of what has been written as science fiction has come to pass. We can't even begin to realize what the future holds, especially at the rate that our technology is growing.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

In my opinion you don't need a scope, but a good digital meter helps. And the ability to follow traces, and read part. It's good to have them but a good tech can get by.

Plus troubleshooting could be a good lesson, especially if you find it's a fuse, bad jack or something so basic could save you 150+.

I stated this at the very first of this thread and I repeat, there are very few components on the board that can be tested with a multimeter alone. The throughhole soldered components are about it, the rest are so miniaturised or so complex that you need specialized equipment to test them, the chips set is a prime example. Another problem that you don't even begin to address are components like electrolytic capacitors that in most cases will need to be discharges and at least on leg separated from the circuit in order to be tested, and then may require an external power supply to be accurate...get real, this is not for the novice. This is about as realistic as saying that you could mow you lawn with a pair of scissors, yeah...you could do it, but who would want to?

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

Try downloading Memtest86, make a bootable CD, the longer this test runs the more accurate the results will be.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

You are aware that by using capital letters you have been yelling at the people that you are asking to help you.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

Try starting it in safe mode, if you can, run your virus and malware scans from there, thats' the most effective way to run them anyway.

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

With Firefox open do the following.

1. Type "about:config" in the address field.
2. Set the value of network.http.pipelining to "true".
3. Set the value of network.http.pipelining.maxrequests to "100".
4. Set the value of network.http.proxy.pipelining to "true"

dcc 88 Posting Virtuoso

If you install a SATA controller card the hdd wil bel completely separate from the IDE.